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View Poll Results: Which state is the most progressive?
North Carolina 116 32.04%
South Carolina 2 0.55%
Tennessee 18 4.97%
Georgia 103 28.45%
Alabama 6 1.66%
Mississippi 9 2.49%
Florida 108 29.83%
Voters: 362. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-17-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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So, the Southern states that are seeing the most metro growth have been the ones that are seeing the politics bend to left over time. These states typically include TX, FL, GA, NC and VA.
While these five states may be moving in the same direction, Virginia and Texas are in very different places today. The Republican party in Virginia has hardly won any statewide election in years and is getting well into minority status in the state's major metro areas (not only the DC suburbs, but also Richmond, Norfolk/Virginia Beach and Charlottesville).

In Texas, voter turnout remains extremely low and Republicans are continuing to win every statewide contest regardless of the diverse, heavily metropolitan population. Texas may have voted for Trump over Clinton by a lower than usual margin, but it still wasn't close to parity and Democrats have little chance of winning the Senate seat and essentially none for the governorship this year.

The other three states are in between Virginia and Texas. Georgia has a lot of potential for Democrats but they haven't quite broken through yet, and 2018 could possibly be the year that happens for governor. Florida has counter-trends of growth among conservative retirees and progressive younger residents resulting in little overall movement for years. North Carolina is very red at the federal level (exacerbated by how districts are drawn) but Democrats have a good track record in state level elections.
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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When the democrats win The suburbs, that’s when you know Texas is really going at least purple. Right now, the republicans are starting to concede the cities. They have little chance to do much of anything in the top 5 most populated counties except Tarrant and even that county is on borrowed time. But the more suburban counties are still staunchly red.

Also I think low vote turnout is another story. Only 43% of Latinos voted in Texas which is interesting because Clinton won the Hispanic vote in Texas by a large margin.

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Old 07-14-2018, 12:43 PM
 
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https://decisiondeskhq.com/data-dive...-precinct-map/

This map shows 2016 national election results precinct-by-precinct. It may not necessarily be a perfect barometer of Progressiveness, because there are Suburban Middle Class voters who lean left socially but still vote Republican, and a number of Black and Latino voters who are socially conservative but voted overwhelmingly Democratic. But it is still a fairly reliable barometer of the politics of any given neighborhood. The map reveals that the largest blocs of Democratic voters in the South, outside of minority-majority rural areas such as the Mississippi Delta and the Black Belt of Alabama and Georgia, are large Metro areas (Atlanta, Raleigh-Durham, Charlotte, Richmond, Nashville, Memphis, New Orleans, Louisville, Norfolk/Hampton Roads) and College Towns (Chapel Hill, Charlottesville, Lexington Kentucky, Asheville, Boone, Athens Georgia, Gainesville Florida). Analyzing precincts within those Metro areas on a more detailed level, precincts that are Black majority tend voted for Hillary on average 90% or more; areas that are considered hipster/gentrified/magnets for young people with diverse demographics or majority white demographics (ie little five points in atlanta, areas around vanderbilt in nashville) tended to vote about 70%-80% Democratic, wealthy/old money areas close to the city center (ie. buckhead atlanta or myers park charlotte) tend to break about 50-50 even between the parties. Exurban areas with solid middle class white populations (peachtree city georgia, shelby county alabama) vote at least 70% Republican.

Northern Virginia and South Florida are the exceptions to this because of the influence of transplants and different community demographics.
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Old 07-14-2018, 03:03 PM
 
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Definitely not Florida.
LOL.I know right?haha
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Old 07-14-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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I'll have to agree. Texas never was able to pass the statewide bathroom bill, probably because most of the effort was diverted to defeat the HERO ordinance in Houston. (Hopefully that extremist Dan Patrick will eventually be voted out of office.)

Right now DFW school districts are trying to attract teachers from Oklahoma away from their low pay. Arizona is also making the news for the same thing. I wouldn't locate my business in either state due to abysmal management and condition of schools. The first term Dubya-era history/social studies textbook that Oklahoman teacher held in that Today Show liveshot was a jaw-dropper.

Georgia is threatening to strip Delta from its tax incentives due to a kerfuffle with NRA supporters and their ideology post-Parkland. I would welcome another airline's hub at IAH here in Houston!

And someone mentioned North Carolina and their bathroom bill already. But really Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina are the center of the old Confederacy and also the most repressive parts of the country.
(Mississippi is passing another anti-abortion bill on top of being the most restrictive in the nation? Don't they have other issues to worry about?)

Florida, Tennessee and purplish North Carolina (and Texas) are a little more progressive than the aforementioned states, but not by much!

GA is the only state out of these listed who has had a black state attorney general,Chief State Supreme court black female,Department of Labor black secretary .The Chief court justice was re-elected STATE WIDE.
the margin of victory for Trump:
GA- around 5%.
NC was around 3%
Texas-around 9% win for Trump
FL-Around 1% difference
AL-around 28%!!!!!!
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:32 PM
 
Location: OC
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Have you ever been to the Research Triangle of Charlotte? Those metros are arguably more progressive than places like Boston, Detroit and Pittsburgh in some ways.
I can't put either of them above Boston.


I voted Florida. Who voted for South Carolina?
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Old 07-14-2018, 06:26 PM
 
Location: OC
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In the South they do.
i would agree. I don't think poor whites voting for Hillary. AS for the affluent, educated city folks, I thought they were shifting towards the dems as well.
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Old 07-14-2018, 06:30 PM
 
Location: North Bronx
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hmmm probably Florida or perhaps North Carolina.......not to sure about GA tho.
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Old 07-14-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta (Sandy Springs), by way of Macon, GA
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I'll have to agree. Texas never was able to pass the statewide bathroom bill, probably because most of the effort was diverted to defeat the HERO ordinance in Houston. (Hopefully that extremist Dan Patrick will eventually be voted out of office.)

Right now DFW school districts are trying to attract teachers from Oklahoma away from their low pay. Arizona is also making the news for the same thing. I wouldn't locate my business in either state due to abysmal management and condition of schools. The first term Dubya-era history/social studies textbook that Oklahoman teacher held in that Today Show liveshot was a jaw-dropper.

Georgia is threatening to strip Delta from its tax incentives due to a kerfuffle with NRA supporters and their ideology post-Parkland. I would welcome another airline's hub at IAH here in Houston!

And someone mentioned North Carolina and their bathroom bill already. But really Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina are the center of the old Confederacy and also the most repressive parts of the country. (Mississippi is passing another anti-abortion bill on top of being the most restrictive in the nation? Don't they have other issues to worry about?)

Florida, Tennessee and purplish North Carolina (and Texas) are a little more progressive than the aforementioned states, but not by much!
Tennesee doesn't have a metro like Atlanta. Even outside of Atlanta, a much larger percentage of GA is minority than TN. "Appalachia" covers a larger portion of TN than it does in GA. How is TN more progressive
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Old 07-14-2018, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Ca$hville via Atlanta
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Tennesee doesn't have a metro like Atlanta. Even outside of Atlanta, a much larger percentage of GA is minority than TN. "Appalachia" covers a larger portion of TN than it does in GA. How is TN more progressive
You really can't know Tennessee.True none of the Metros in Tennessee are the size of Metro Atlanta but the population of its cities are much more evenly divided and even the 2nd tiers in Tennessee are way ahead of Georgia 2nd tiers.. Truth be told all Georgia really has is Atlanta and Savannah as a tourist destination. First Memphis is a Majority black city and Metro and the only metro in the country over a million with a majority black population in spite it's problems.. 2ndly Nashville is a very progressive, diverse and intergrated city at city level with its metro approaching 2,000,000 quick if it hasn't already hit that.. Honestly Atlanta can't claim that at city level, mainly black and white until you claim the metro which holds the diverse part of the population. Guess it all depends on how you see and view progression in a state, everybody view and view point is different
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