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Old 05-31-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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So what if he does? Why are you people always so scared of everything?

Trump is not going to cause permanent damage to any of the relationships we have with our allies. He is simply trying to strike better deals with them to make the trade situation a bit more fair. Sometimes you have to push people out of their comfort zones to do so... that's what he's doing.

His strategy always follows the same pattern:
1.) Threaten to pull out of something big to emphasize the level of seriousness
2.) Now that we have your attention, here is what we're looking for...
3.) Can't meet these all of these conditions? Okay, no problem, how about half of them then?
4.) Deal.
5.) Trade resumes, Americans benefit.
Sounds like a decent strategy, in theory.
Can you give some examples of where he has been successful with this?

 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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which anonymous sources do you object to:


The ones that said Spicey was leaving
the ones that said Priebus was leaving
the ones that said Hope Hicks was leaving
The oens that said Bannon was leaving
The ones that said Cohn was leaving
The ones that said Jr met with Russians
The ones that said Manafort was dirty
The oens that said Gates was dirty
The ones that said Flynn was cooperating
The ones that said Gorka was leaving
The ones that said McFarland was leaving
The ones that said Tillerson was leaving
The ones saying Price was out




I can keep going you know...


just curious
Gotta love when they pull out the old "anonymous sources can't be trusted" chestnut.
 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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It's to prevent potential libel cases by stating "reportedly said" and "sources claim" in their title so they can place the burden on who they're citing. It's the oldest trick in the book and it's a key component in tricking the viewers without them noticing.
Like Trump claiming the media is making up the story that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation?

"Not that it matters but I never fired James Comey because of Russia! The Corrupt Mainstream Media loves to keep pushing that narrative, but they know it is not true!"


Because Trump doesn't think there is video of him saying:

"And in fact when I decided to just do it I said to myself, I said, “You know, this Russer (said like a New Yorker) thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.”
 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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uh you dont think companies know how to operate in their own best interest? Do you make your own choices when shopping for a car, tv, computer, cell phone, etc.? No president has any biz making trade deals on behalf of anyone or any company.
Are you aware that the EU adds a 10% tariff on US auto imports, whereas the US only adds 2.5% on German imports? How is that for fair trade? US auto makers at disadvantage right out of the gate.

Or how about the EU customs duty of 5.2% vs the US customs duty of 3.5%? Again, where's the fair trade?

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What's more the outcome of his illogical interfering in the markets are fewer choices, more expensive choices, reduced competition and increased cronyism.
4D chess my a**
You people never dig beneath the surface on any argument, do you?

Yes, the first level effects of a trade war would likely impact Americans in a negative way through fewer choices, more expensive choices, reduced competition, etc.. But guess what? The other country will experience the same problems, giving them an incentive to find a solution.

What happens next? Well, both countries don't want to live in a perpetual state of limited trade, so they work together to solve the problem. The US is Germany's largest export trading partner... do you really think they want to forever be stuck in a trade dispute? No, you can bet your butt they will try and resolve the dispute as quickly as possible so their economy doesn't suffer.
 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Nothing wrong with the occasional failure. Failing, and learning from the mistakes, makes leaders better.
Now if we could just get Cheeto vonTinyhands to learn, we'd be getting somewhere.
 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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Seems a bunch of GOP legislators don't like the tariffs.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/31/polit...rts/index.html
 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Originally Posted by ryanst530 View Post
What happens next? Well, both countries don't want to live in a perpetual state of limited trade, so they work together to solve the problem. The US is Germany's largest export trading partner... do you really think they want to forever be stuck in a trade dispute? No, you can bet your butt they will try and resolve the dispute as quickly as possible so their economy doesn't suffer.
One little problem with that. Germany doesn’t have the power to set its own trade policy. It’s part of a trading block - the European Union.
 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Assuming this is true...

It's bad enough to tamper with the free market. Now please don't do this for Japanese cars, because they are by far the best.
Well the vast majority of the Japanese brands sold here are made in North America (USA, Canada and Mexico).
 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Seems a bunch of GOP legislators don't like the tariffs.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/31/polit...rts/index.html
Of course not. They have fought for free trade for decades.
 
Old 05-31-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Well the vast majority of the Japanese brands sold here are made in North America (USA, Canada and Mexico).
So are Ze Germanz.
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