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And it's my prerogative to call Denmark's law oppressive. Which it is, it's throwing people in jail or forcing them to dress in a way that makes them uncomfortable. If that's the direction Denmark wants to go, it can be criticized for it.
That’s fine if you want to call it oppressive. I feel that the law is based on sound policy, and I’m glad it’s being enforced.
Technically yes, they can’t legally force them to wear it. But what repercussions will they face if they dare defy the husband?
This is true of literally anything, though. What if he forces her to get a job to support him - should women not be allowed to work? Or what if he forces her to NOT have a job, so she'll be dependent? Should women not be allowed to be stay at home mothers? In some middle eastern countries women aren't allowed to drive - should all Western women be required to get driver's licenses, whether they want them or not, just in case their husband is forbidding them from getting a license? Maybe a husband forces his wife to wear a skirt or dress rather than trousers - should women not be allowed to wear dresses?
This is true of literally anything, though. What if he forces her to get a job to support him - should women not be allowed to work? Or what if he forces her to NOT have a job, so she'll be dependent? Should women not be allowed to be stay at home mothers? In some middle eastern countries women aren't allowed to drive - should all first world women be required to get driver's licenses, whether they want them or not, just in case their husband is forbidding them from getting a license? Maybe a husband forces his wife to wear a skirt or dress rather than trousers - should women not be allowed to wear dresses?
The intent of the law isn’t to fulfill or defy the husband’s wishes. It is to prevent people from hiding their face in public. I regret responding to that post to the extent that it sidetracked the thread topic.
The wording of the new legislation does not specifically mention Muslim women but says that "anyone who wears a garment that hides the face in public will be punished with a fine".
So wearing sunglasses may be considered to obscure ones identity, especially if paired with a ball cap. No sunglasses for you.
I can see if the law is followed as written, lots of American tourists paying their 1000 kr as they pass through immigration, in their shorts, hats and shades.
Regardless of the claims, the truth is that there will be zero fines handed out to those wearing shades, hats, scarves, balaclavas, face paint. Since we know what the law is intended to do. Which is stop the roughly 200 Danish Muslims who wear niqabs or burqas from wearing them, or leaving the house.
It’s interesting, I recently watched a few documentaries on Tajikistan and Turkmenistan, both overwhelmingly Muslim countries, but you would be hard-pressed to find a woman wearing a niqab anywhere there. Because the fundamentalist Wahhabism exported from Saudi Arabia hasn’t found its way into those countries (yet). Such attire is heavily frowned upon in those countries because it is contrary to their national values. So why should Western Europe tolerate behaviors contrary to their national values?
Technically yes, they can’t legally force them to wear it. But what repercussions will they face if they dare defy the husband?
And that’s the real issue.
I get pissed off about this subject. The sight of a woman wearing a Niquab, Burka, or other forms of dress that imply that this PERSON is a possession get my American blood to boiling.
I do not like censorship or telling others what to wear. That said, like you stated, it comes down to facing an ass beating when some ladies dare to bare their hair.
I get pissed off about this subject. The sight of a woman wearing a Niquab, Burka, or other forms of dress that imply that this PERSON is a possession get my American blood to boiling.
I do not like censorship or telling others what to wear. That said, like you stated, it comes down to facing an ass beating when some ladies dare to bare their hair.
If that's the real issue then perhaps it may be wise to address that issue, rather than an entirely unrelated issue that is solely to make everyone, but who is affected by that issue, feel better.
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