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Old 06-03-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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No, but what they are they doing is still stupid given the water situation in California, and I'm fine with making them pay more for their wasteful idiocy.

They already do pay more via property taxes. OTOH, the free loading ILLEGALS are stealing American's water and paying no income tax.
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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If I have a house in California on a well, I would use as much as I please.

But I don’t and never will.
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Old 06-03-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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They already do pay more via property taxes. OTOH, the free loading ILLEGALS are stealing American's water and paying no income tax.
I get it, you hate illegals. The fact is they do pay property taxes (renters pay that in the form of rent), sales and excise taxes and yes income taxes. Stop your lies. https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/ho...-an-explainer/
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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California is pretty much a desert. If anything, it had been unusually wet the past few centuries, and it's reverting back into its desert roots. It was inevitable eventually. So they really do need to minimize their water usage, unless other states are willing to provide them with water.

Well then California shouldn't be diverting so much water to agriculture where it doesn't naturally belong should it?
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Erie, PA
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It's not unreasonable to ask people to conserve water in a place that is essentially a desert area:

https://www.tripsavvy.com/wettest-pl...he-usa-4135027

Water is not a problem in my area; I can't recall ever having to water anything. Still, I grow flowers/trees/shrubs that are adapted for my particular climate type (cold winters/wet climate). It's strange to see the lawns growing in areas of California surrounded by desert; it would kind of be like people having lawns of cacti here

A water shortage has nothing to do with undocumented immigrants; it's simply a matter of geography and climate.
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Orange County/Las Vegas
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Well maybe the cities and counties need to do something about sprinklers that are watering when it is raining.
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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You need to read about the Colorado River Compact:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact


And given that the river originates in Colorado (hence the name), I'm curious as to why you believe Arizona owns it.....
I should have been more clear. The larger volume of water merges within Arizona's boundaries. Arizona can absorb as much or all of the water, leaving Californica with a dry river bed. Treaties and compacts don't matter when push come to shove.
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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You need to read about the Colorado River Compact:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact


And given that the river originates in Colorado (hence the name), I'm curious as to why you believe Arizona owns it.....
I should have been more clear. The larger volume of water merges within Arizona's boundaries and provides much of Arizona's agricultural needs. Arizona can absorb as much or all of the water, leaving Californica with a dry river bed. Treaties and compacts don't matter when push come to shove.
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Old 06-03-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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California has had drought and water aplenty for decades. Perhaps they should have spent the $$ to build the reservoir projects that were designed 30-40 years ago, it sure would have been less expensive then. But no one wanted to spend the dough and they were fought by Sierra Club and other environmentalists because of some fish, frog, or salamander.

Meanwhile I will enjoy my well that has an adjudicated water right that allows 13,000 gallons per day, that is if they ever decide to put a meter on it.
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Old 06-03-2018, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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the free loading ILLEGALS are stealing American's water and paying no income tax.
Oy vey. Read and learn.
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/172290...ants-pay-taxes
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The best estimates come from research by the Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy, a Washington, DC, think tank, which suggests that about half of undocumented workers in the United States file income tax returns. The most recent IRS data, from 2015, shows that the agency received 4.4 million income tax returns from workers who don’t have Social Security numbers, which includes a large number of undocumented immigrants. That year, they paid $23.6 billion in income taxes.

Those undocumented workers paid taxes for benefits they can’t even use, like Social Security and Medicare. They also aren’t eligible for benefits like the earned income tax credit. But the IRS still expects unauthorized immigrants to file their taxes, and many of them do so.
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