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Old 06-02-2018, 10:35 PM
 
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So what are your thoughts on this. Back in 2014 the right held him up as what was wrong with the left.
Will the right support the pardon? Will they somehow justify what just four years ago they blasted?

This will be interesting if the pardon goes through.
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Old 06-02-2018, 10:42 PM
 
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Blagojovich should not be pardoned. He has no moral compass. But, Trump doesn't either. So, the crook in the WH will pardon his peer - the crook in the Illinois jail
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Old 06-02-2018, 10:50 PM
 
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trump is not considering pardoning blagojovich, but rather he is considering commuting hie sentence, and there is a difference.
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Old 06-02-2018, 10:55 PM
 
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trump is not considering pardoning blagojovich, but rather he is considering commuting hie sentence, and there is a difference.
Not really. Blago was the poster boy for corruption on the left.
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Old 06-03-2018, 12:20 AM
 
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Not really. Blago was the poster boy for corruption on the left.

While it's true that Blagojevich was as corrupt as they come, there is quite a bit of difference between the commutation of a sentence and a full pardon. A commutation reduces the sentence, but leaves the conviction intact. A pardon vacates the conviction altogether.



Blagojevich has served six years of a fourteen year sentence for trying to sell a U.S. Senate seat. One could make a case for commuting his sentence, but I don't see any case to be made for pardoning him.


Then again...John Wesley Hardin was pardoned in 1894 by the Governor of Texas, following his release from prison after serving seventeen years of a 25-yr. sentence for murdering a deputy sheriff, one of at least 20 men he was reputed to have killed. Compared to the J. W. Hardin case, the prospect of pardoning Blagojevich doesn't seem so bad, I guess.
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Old 06-03-2018, 12:23 AM
 
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While it's true that Blagojevich was as corrupt as they come, there is quite a bit of difference between the commutation of a sentence and a full pardon. A commutation reduces the sentence, but leaves the conviction intact. A pardon vacates the conviction altogether.



Blagojevich has served six years of a fourteen year sentence for trying to sell a U.S. Senate seat. One could make a case for commuting his sentence, but I don't see any case to be made for pardoning him.


Then again...John Wesley Hardin was pardoned in 1894 by the Governor of Texas, following his release from prison after serving seventeen years of a 25-yr. sentence for murdering a deputy sheriff, one of at least 20 men he was reputed to have killed. Compared to the J. W. Hardin case, the prospect of pardoning Blagojevich doesn't seem so bad, I guess.
All these words and you have not mentioned why Trump is contemplating intervening and what is the response on the right considering they villifiied the guy.
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:25 AM
 
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All these words and you have not mentioned why Trump is contemplating intervening and what is the response on the right considering they villifiied the guy.

perhaps trump thinks the sentence was unfair? until trump actually commutes blagos sentence, and tells us why he is doing it, we wont know what is on trumps mind now will we?
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:35 AM
 
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Blagojovich should not be pardoned. He has no moral compass. But, Trump doesn't either. So, the crook in the WH will pardon his peer - the crook in the Illinois jail


It'd be professional courtesy amongst those who'd use public office for personal gain.
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:36 AM
 
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Blago was on The Apprentice so that works in his favor.
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Old 06-03-2018, 03:40 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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trump is not considering pardoning blagojovich, but rather he is considering commuting hie sentence, and there is a difference.

He gets out of jail..so he has a record?


I thought this was a joke when I first read it..then I realized..with Trump's hatred of all things Obama, commuting Blagojinevich's sentence makes a perverted kind of sense.


The fun part, as always, will be watching his base eat it up
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