*****Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Christian Colorado Baker**** (elect, homosexuals, laws)
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"Supreme Court rules narrowly for Colorado baker who wouldn't make same-sex wedding cake"
5-4 is a narrow ruling. 7-2 is as close to a sweep as you are going to get these days.
Headline cracked me up. I expected a 'narrow' 5-4 decision for the baker. Breyer and Kagan joining the majority is as big a win as the SC can give on a freedom of religion case.
I never understood why any business would turn away a customer and I certainly don't understand why anyone would want to buy something from someone that doesn't want to and even worse is when they are forced to sell to you.
Would you honestly eat a cake from a bakery that you had to sue to force them to make you that cake?
I own a real estate company and we don't care if our clients are gay, a minority, followers of some whacky religion, total loudmouth know it all jerks or if they voted for Hillary or Trump. We will help them to the best of our ability.
I don't know why a business would turn away a paying customer but it is nice to hear that a business has that right.
Because this was about creating a custom cake, a one time cake for the couple. The couple was free to choose a cake in the refrig. They wanted a custom cake. The freedom to create and not to create stands behind this view of religious freedom. Suppose I was an artist and I painted portraits of privately owned dogs, horses, houses, etc. why should I be forced to paint a portrait of you or your dog etc when I dont lke you or your dog. But I have prints made of many breeds of dogs including yours. You are free to buy a print. But why would the law force me to create a custom portrait for you? Now we need to have a case that truly protects artistic and religious freedom.
Tell me where in the Bible Jesus said it's OK to hate gays, or where Jesus treated ANYONE badly. Newsflash: he didn't. Jesus said, "Love one another." That's pretty simple, with zero room for interpretation. Liberals don't need to spin this negatively: the so called Christian baker did a great job all on his own.
You shouldn't have to engage or support a person's sinful lifestyle in order to have love in your heart for the individual. Jesus loved the prostitute, but your statements would be like saying Jesus should have been willing to build her a new bed frame so she could perform better for her customers.
Note I think narrow ruling refers to the scope of the ruling as a matter of law not in terms of the vote outcome. But a good decision nonetheless! A win for freedom!
I think I understand what the "narrow" victory being reported means. it means the ruling was narrow in scope. the supreme court didn't resolve the broad range of problems that can arise between the first amendment right to practice one's religion and anti-discrimination laws: that conflict will have to litigated in other cases, it seems. this ruling was for this case alone.... case specific.
Does this mean a landlord can legally refuse to rent to an unmarried man and woman with a baby, due to the landlord's religious beliefs that they should be married? Even if they qualify for the rental otherwise.
Or does the 'narrow' ruling mean that other such discrimination versus religion doesn't apply.
Does it only apply to the 1 Colorado case? I am not understanding the 'narrow' part of the ruling. How narrow? How does it impact precedence?
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd
I never understood why any business would turn away a customer and I certainly don't understand why anyone would want to buy something from someone that doesn't want to and even worse is when they are forced to sell to you.
Would you honestly eat a cake from a bakery that you had to sue to force them to make you that cake?
I own a real estate company and we don't care if our clients are gay, a minority, followers of some whacky religion, total loudmouth know it all jerks or if they voted for Hillary or Trump. We will help them to the best of our ability.
I don't know why a business would turn away a paying customer but it is nice to hear that a business has that right.
Your train of thought does not extend to homosexuals. Homosexuals are mentally ill to start with, so they don't accept reality.
In the big picture,acceptance is not enuf for the homosexuals. You must approve and embrace homosexuality. That is the only thing a homosexual will allow for.
A normal person would not want to have food made by someone that hates them...but leave it to the homosexuals. The key word 'normal' is missing from their life - homosexuals are abnormal.
If Obama or Hil was in, you could bet the baker would have lost and the homosexuals would be eating cake.
Does it not make the Religious argument more valid though? Don't want to make Hoodies for the KKK, then you should have that right.
Not so far according to my understanding. In what I have read of the ruling so far it appears to rule on how the commission acted during the initial case and not the law itself. I haven't finished reading yet though.
You shouldn't have to engage or support a person's sinful lifestyle in order to have love in your heart for the individual. Jesus loved the prostitute, but your statements would be like saying Jesus should have been willing to build her a new bed frame so she could perform better for her customers.
Jesus ate dinner with the "sinners" and this did not make the church very happy. Jesus had no problem associating with those whose actions he did not agree with.
W.W.J.D.?
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