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Old 06-06-2018, 09:20 AM
 
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I know. How can the name he chose be just random? He's evidently a Chicano and therefore identified with the name. It's no coincidence for sure.
Unlike him I didnt chose the name to put doen others down or tell them where they belong.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:07 AM
 
Location: London
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They could be and often are mutually exclusive. You just stated you have divided loyalties . Or as you put it “care”.

Still denying that hyphenated Americanism is not the same as real Americanism undiluted by foreign loyalties and cares ?
So let's pretend you're actually right (you're not, but just pretend) - why would the US allow dual citizenship?
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:11 AM
 
Location: London
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Says the guy whose handle is literally advertising his ethnic identity!! Gawd the irony - can’t make this stuff up.
What's wrong with someone identifying as Mexican-American? He's not the one here trying to exclude others.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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Unlike him I didnt chose the name to put doen others down or tell them where they belong.

His forum name doesn't either. But let's face it you chose your forum name because of your identity with Latinos and La Raze. It tells me you are into identity politics. There is difference between a white, brown or a black supremacist.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I didn’t say if your grandparents weren’t you’re not ...but more LIKELY not to be as assimilated and culturally American. National identity is multigenerational and inter generational ....right? I’m talking about foreign cultural values and beliefs and loyalties that might be rooted elsewhere rather than only America. No need to be touchy about it : you clearly misunderstood my comment.



Some might be . But you’re referring to assimilation and assuming that is completed as a process which isn’t valid- it’s not true or universal. And culturally and in terms of their values and ideals those are rooted elsewhere and shaped by those foreign influences. This doesn’t seem controversial to me as this has been extensively studied by social scientists for decades and well established to not be some kind of instantaneous event.

And do you actually think this country is about immigration? My god. That’s pretty crazy. So many people have no clue what the nation is or what it was created for. There’s a fair instance of not being a real American btw. Failing to grasp the point of the nation ....such as to think it exists for foreigners to migrate to. This is something all Americans used to know.



That’s commendable - I don’t know his story but on face value sure....but I still cannot agree that American-ness can be defined solely by military service. But allegiance can be demonstrated by a willingness to fight for a nation I suppose (there are of course lots of exceptions - no need to go into a lengthy discussion of the complicating motives of paid/professional soldiers or mercenaries or the possible other aspects inherent in foreign wars in this thread, I hope...very much OT)
Predictable pap coming from you. Yet another faux super patriot who claims to love his country, but dislikes, devalues and disdains most of the people who live in it.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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His forum name doesn't either. But let's face it you chose your forum name because of your identity with Latinos and La Raze. It tells me you are into identity politics. There is difference between a white, brown or a black supremacist.
Not really. I never thought that I was better than anyone else.

Supremacy is when you love your culture, but believe others to be inferior. Love your culture and share it with others and let them share theirs with you. To learn from one another is better than being a Xenophobic crackpot..

I don’t care for LaRaza movement. Hispanics/latinos are diverse. There’s no one color for us.
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: FL
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Con-man's gonna do what a con-man's gonna do. I think he appeals to the same group that believes John Wayne was a real war hero.
and Elvis is still alive.
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: FL
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So, he doesn't appeal to Melania?
I don't think so.
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Old 06-06-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: FL
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What I have discerned is that statements like this are usually made by folks who are not very bright, and are ignorant of the facts. But, please keep on with the "deplorable" ranting and raving. It helped President Trump get elected in 2016 and will help again in 2020.
"I love the poorly educated" Donald Trump
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Old 06-06-2018, 12:57 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yeah … but … but …. but Obama ….

Do republicans ever get tired of not defending Trump but instead try to blame others?
"Blame others" "republicans"? I'm a former Dem and don't like Trump, but after Obama released his Gitmo Terrorists to return to the battle fields, released money to the Iranian Mullahs to fund their Nuclear program, blamed the Terrorist attacks in Libya on an "Evil video", called the Fort hood and other Terrorist attacks in the US "Work place violence", Trump was by for the better choice when Hillary said she would continue Obama's ridiculous policies
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