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Old 04-24-2022, 05:10 AM
 
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That is correct.
There is no legitimate birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment.
I posted the quote from the writer earlier.
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Old 04-24-2022, 05:14 AM
 
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The "Bill of Rights" have no applicability to free people who retain all endowed rights. They're really only for the citizens who lost all rights by their consent to be governed.
But the worst amendment of all is the 14th, specifically clause 4.
Repeal that and you shut down the plutocracy.
I posted this earlier:


"As for birthright citizenship, Sen. Howard ( the writer) said “foreigners”and “aliens” born on U.S. soil are, “of course,” not citizens: “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-b...e-not-citizens
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Old 04-24-2022, 05:16 AM
 
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The "Bill of Rights" have no applicability to free people who retain all endowed rights. They're really only for the citizens who lost all rights by their consent to be governed.
But the worst amendment of all is the 14th, specifically clause 4.
Repeal that and you shut down the plutocracy.
"But the worst amendment of all is the 14th, specifically clause 4."
NOT if we follow what the writer said.

So I will repeat AGAIN.

I posted this earlier:

"As for birthright citizenship, Sen. Howard ( the writer) said “foreigners”and “aliens” born on U.S. soil are, “of course,” not citizens: “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-b...e-not-citizens
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Old 04-24-2022, 07:29 AM
 
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The "Bill of Rights" have no applicability to free people who retain all endowed rights. They're really only for the citizens who lost all rights by their consent to be governed.
But the worst amendment of all is the 14th, specifically clause 4.
Repeal that and you shut down the plutocracy.
Exactly. In short, it states... "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, ...shall not be questioned."

Doesn't matter how much Congress spends or how far they sink us into debt. "Shall not be questioned."

That's a recipe for disaster. It used to be a problem for only the federal income taxpayers among us (only 43% of all US 1040 filers now). But now it's a problem for EVERYONE as the Federal Reserve over-printing the USD is spurring obscene inflation levels.
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Old 04-24-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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Speaking of repeals, Murray Rothbard said of he & his libertaryan acolytes, ”We shall repeal the 20th century!”.

If you are wondering what he was referring to, here is a start:

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Rothbard called for the elimination of "the entire 'civil rights' structure" stating that it "tramples on the property rights of every American". He consistently favored repeal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, including Title VII regarding employment discrimination,[86] and called for overturning the Brown v. Board of Education decision on the grounds that state-mandated integration of schools violated libertarian principles.[87]

In an essay called "Right-wing Populism", Rothbard proposed a set of measures to "reach out" to the "middle and working classes", which included urging the police to crack down on "street criminals", writing that "cops must be unleashed" and "allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error". He also advocated that the police "clear the streets of bums and vagrants."[88]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard
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Old 04-24-2022, 07:51 AM
 
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The 16th
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Old 04-24-2022, 07:58 AM
 
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Speaking of repeals, Murray Rothbard said of he & his libertaryan acolytes, ”We shall repeal the 20th century!”.

If you are wondering what he was referring to, here is a start:

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Rothbard called for the elimination of "the entire 'civil rights' structure" stating that it "tramples on the property rights of every American". He consistently favored repeal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, including Title VII regarding employment discrimination,[86] and called for overturning the Brown v. Board of Education decision on the grounds that state-mandated integration of schools violated libertarian principles.[87]

In an essay called "Right-wing Populism", Rothbard proposed a set of measures to "reach out" to the "middle and working classes", which included urging the police to crack down on "street criminals", writing that "cops must be unleashed" and "allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error". He also advocated that the police "clear the streets of bums and vagrants."[88]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard
It's quite a bit late for that. Democrats have already done that via insisting that kids be trapped in abysmally performing public schools solely due to their neighborhood/zip code. Guess which schools perform the worst and what the demographics are of their student population?

Baltimore ring a bell? Very high percentage majority Black.

At least 41% of Baltimore high school students earn below-D GPA
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Old 04-24-2022, 08:04 AM
 
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It's quite a bit late for that. Democrats have already done that via insisting that kids be trapped in abysmally performing public schools solely due to their neighborhood/zip code. Guess which schools perform the worst and what the demographics are of their student population?

Baltimore ring a bell? Very high percentage majority Black.

At least 41% of Baltimore high school students earn below-D GPA
It is quite a bit late to “repeal the 20th Century”?

Despite the magical thinking of some folks, the world is not like a blank slate on which each of us gets the opportunity to paint our own picture of what we want the world to be.
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Old 04-24-2022, 08:12 AM
 
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It is quite a bit late to “repeal the 20th Century”?
It's too late to try to repeal Brown v. Board of Ed. Democrats have already done that by trapping kids in abysmally performing neighborhood public schools, thereby perpetuating segregated low-income neighborhoods.
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Old 04-24-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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It's too late to try to repeal Brown v. Board of Ed. Democrats have already done that by trapping kids in abysmally performing neighborhood public schools, thereby perpetuating segregated low-income neighborhoods.
The legal question in Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka was:

Does the segregation of public education based solely on race violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment?

In your perfect world, the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment would have been repealed?

Magical thinking & time traveling, try the real world, it is not as bad as you imagine.
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