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There's no need to open another store. Just make discrimination illegal and enforceable for all. Period.
It should be as simple as that. However, some people are not interested in that. We have to consider that some individuals want to discriminate against those who aren't of their race/ethnicity. This is why some people want it to be legal again. It has nothing to do with any actual freedom. If the free market was guaranteed to root out all discrimination, we wouldn't have needed lawsuits to stop it all. It took the Supreme Court.
There is no down side to making racial discrimination illegal. I certainly see no down side. I'm happy that it is illegal to discriminate based on race. If racial discrimination was made legal again, there would be people who would revive discrimination against certain groups. And as MPowering mentioned, it wouldn't stop at just retail. I'm happier with the current arrangement.
I assume you didn't read my earlier post on individualism and collectivism. It's the same downside as say, making hate speech illegal.
I really do think people have an oversimplified view on this debate. None of us arguing for discrimination to be legal support discrimination itself. I fully understand the anti-discrimination side, and could represent that side in a debate, even though I disagree with it. I don't see a reason to believe the same is true the other way around.
I assume you didn't read my earlier post on individualism and collectivism. It's the same downside as say, making hate speech illegal.
I really do think people have an oversimplified view on this debate. None of us arguing for discrimination to be legal support discrimination itself. I fully understand the anti-discrimination side, and could represent that side in a debate, even though I disagree with it. I don't see a reason to believe the same is true the other way around.
Ever heard of the 3 laws of robotics?
"A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
So think of the laws of a business.
A person's business cannot operate in such a way that affects another person's livelihood through discrimination. A person cannot interfere with another person's business in ways such as vandalism or loitering, or robbery. A person has the right to operate their business free of interference so long as it does not conflict with the first law.
So your free to operate your shop so long as you don't discriminate and I'm free to shop so long as I don't violate.
You get your money, add it to your savings for when you buy your kids a pool or take them to Disney World. I simply have a cold drink after a long day of work.. WHY IS ANYONE COMPLAINING? How petty does one have to be?
I think you're in it so often, you have your own chair with your name on the back of it. That's why you get no recess.
The government ate his lunch!
"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing."
~Ron Swanson
Quote:
RON SWANSON: Lauren. My name is Ron Swanson. And I’m going to tell you everything you need to know about the miserable, screwed-up world of local government.
LAUREN BURKISS: You have mustard in your mustache.
RON: Don’t sass me Burkiss. … Life, liberty and property. John Locke.
[END SCENE]
RON: This is your lunch. Now … you should be able to do whatever you want with this, right? If you want to eat all of it, great. If you want to throw it all away in the garbage, that’s your prerogative. But here I come … the government. [Ron takes a big bite out of Lauren’s sandwich.] And I get to take 40 percent of your lunch. [Ron eats Lauren’s chips and takes a big sip from her juice box.] And that, Lauren, is how taxes work.
LAUREN: That’s not fair!
RON: You’re learning … Uh oh! … Capital gains tax. [Ron takes another chunk out of Lauren’s sandwich.]
[END SCENE]
RON: And that, Lauren, is how FDR ruined this country.
TEACHER: Lauren, ready to head back?
RON: Well, I guess it’s time for you to head home. I’ve really enjoyed talking with you. You are — and this is not a joke — much smarter than most of other people who work in this building.
LAUREN: I liked talking with you, too, Mr. Swanson.
RON: Ron … Hang on, hang on. I have something for you. This is a claymore land mine. Use that to protect your property.
LAUREN: Thanks, Ron!
RON: You got it. [smiles broadly]
[END SCENE]
LAUREN’S MOM: Are you Ron Swanson?
RON: I am.
LAUREN’S MOM: What exactly did you teach my daughter?
RON: Ahh … you must be Mrs. Burkiss.
LAUREN’S MOM: Lauren was supposed to do a paper on why government matters. This is what she wrote. [Slides paper on the desk.]
RON: [Grins, reads the paper] It doesn’t. Well said.
LAUREN’S MOM: Is this a joke?
RON: No, ma’am. I legitimately believe that. I’m a libertarian.
LAUREN’S MOM: Oh, that’s nice, but she’s a fourth-grader. And fourth-graders aren’t supposed to have their minds crammed full of weird ideas. They are supposed do cute reports and get gold stars
RON: I’m sorry …
LAUREN’S MOM: And you ate her lunch! And you gave her a land mine!? Really!?
RON: Well, it seemed appropriate at the time …
LAUREN’S MOM: How?!
[END SCENE]
RON [to Lauren]: All I’m saying is, keep an open mind for a while. Listen to your teachers, and read all the books you can. Then, when you’re 18, you can drink, gamble, and become a libertarian.
LAUREN: The drinking age is 21.
RON: I know. Another stupid government rule. … So you’ll write a new paper?
LAUREN: Yeah.
RON: Can you autograph this one for me?
LAUREN: Sure.
RON: [Smiles contently.]
[End of Show, roll ending credits.]
"A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
So think of the laws of a business.
A person's business cannot operate in such a way that affects another person's livelihood through discrimination. A person cannot interfere with another person's business in ways such as vandalism or loitering, or robbery. A person has the right to operate their business free of interference so long as it does not conflict with the first law.
So your free to operate your shop so long as you don't discriminate and I'm free to shop so long as I don't violate.
You get your money, add it to your savings for when you buy your kids a pool or take them to Disney World. I simply have a cold drink after a long day of work.. WHY IS ANYONE COMPLAINING? How petty does one have to be?
I disagree with the first law because discrimination isn't any kind of offensive attack. If you have something I want and you won't trade it to me, you're not attacking me. You may be a jerk in that situation, but not a criminal. It's a very Marxist mindset to believe I deserve something because I want or need it.
On the last paragraph, the problem is with consent. Even if they're being petty, that doesn't make it okay to take what belongs to them. A legitimate trade can't involve force from either side, or else you can't really call it "trade" anymore. It's a crime.
This principle holds true for any situation, which is why eminent domain is wrong, for example. They could even offer you more money than your house is worth, but if you don't accept the deal it's still theft...even if you're being irrational.
Don't sass me No_Recess. & what s'matter? Did someone steal your land mine this morning?
Yeah, someone did. You're suspect #1 since you advocate theft.
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& what s'matter? Did someone steal your land mine this morning? 
