Republican lawmaker in SD says businesses should be allowed to turn away people of color (TV, city)
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Seriously, other than trying to drive a racial divide, why make such an asinine claim. There are 326M people in this country, are you HONESTLY saying that the majority (50.1% or 163M) people want white supremacy? How much more ridiculous can one get?
Im in agreement with the premise a business should be able to discriminate on skin color. It does not mean I would or that it is even a good idea. My opinion is based on the rights of private property ownership to have the freedom of association, just as you exercise your property rights as to who you let into your home.
Like so many you think because something is called a business, it magically becomes something else and is suddenly beholden to the whims and dictates of politicians. Forcing a business to serve someone is slavery (as No_Recess has so clearly stated).
Then why were right wingers so tore up over the Huckabee Sanders girl being told to hit the bricks at that Red Rooster Buffet that night? If they think anybody should have the right to deny service to whomever they please... why did the restaurant become a non-stop target from the right wingers for threats and harassment? Be careful what you wish for Caucasian right wingers. You are soon to be the minority and your words can come back to haunt you.
You already lost the last election by 3 million votes. 2018 and 2020 are shaping up to be pretty disastrous for your party. Even Roy Moore lost in Alabama.
Personally, I think slavery blows. Just my 2 cents.
Good to see ya Chi.
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
Im in agreement with the premise a business should be able to discriminate on skin color. It does not mean I would or that it is even a good idea. My opinion is based on the rights of private property ownership to have the freedom of association, just as you exercise your property rights as to who you let into your home.
Like so many you think because something is called a business, it magically becomes something else and is suddenly beholden to the whims and dictates of politicians. Forcing a business to serve someone is slavery (as No_Recess has so clearly stated).
So what.
Ron Paul has been spewing the same sorts of nonsense for decades; first in his "Ron Paul Freedom Report", then in his "Ron Paul Political Report", & finally in his "Ron Paul Survival Report".
How is what either one of what you guys assert any different from the decades-long nonsensical spewings of Ron Paul & the more recent nonsensical spewings of SD legislator Michael Clark?
Granted, there is the general irony of anti-government folks who are working for the government factor.
& the irony of anti-American government folks preaching about the 'honor' of secession in front of Confederate flags for an audience of anti-American government however pro-Confederate (& literally for decades).
Then there's the fact that Mr. Paul uses 'plausible deniability' to deny whatever is politically inconvenient. I guess you 2 guys may not have that luxury.
Oh & people are not property.
& properties are not people.
A piece of property, including the legal fictive corporations or various business property appellations do not magically become people. No matter how much you pout or whine about it. People are people. Magical thinking is magical thinking, including Free Market fundamentalist magical thinking.
Then why were right wingers so tore up over the Huckabee Sanders girl being told to hit the bricks at that Red Rooster Buffet that night? If they think anybody should have the right to deny service to whomever they please... why did the restaurant become a non-stop target from the right wingers for threats and harassment? Be careful what you wish for Caucasian right wingers. You are soon to be the minority and your words can come back to haunt you.
You already lost the last election by 3 million votes. 2018 and 2020 are shaping up to be pretty disastrous for your party. Even Roy Moore lost in Alabama.
The truth is, we live in a society that is very tribalistic to a certain extent. Many people will feel no empathy for those who are not from their group.
Somalia is living proof that lack of a functioning government is not a success. After 1991. Somalia was basically ruled by warlords. Consider what would happen if gang members took over an entire city and they were the so-called "law". There are efforts now to establish stability in Somalia. However, it is a struggle. I dare someone to refute that.
I agree that "statist" is just an insult used when some people see that others do not agree with the idea of anarchy.
You know what Somalia doesn’t have? White people.
Ron Paul has been spewing the same sorts of nonsense for decades; first in his "Ron Paul Freedom Report", then in his "Ron Paul Political Report", & finally in his "Ron Paul Survival Report".
How is what either one of what you guys assert any different from the decades-long nonsensical spewings of Ron Paul & the more recent nonsensical spewings of SD legislator Michael Clark?
Granted, there is the general irony of anti-government folks who are working for the government factor.
& the irony of anti-American government folks preaching about the 'honor' of secession in front of Confederate flags for an audience of anti-American government however pro-Confederate (& literally for decades).
Then there's the fact that Mr. Paul uses 'plausible deniability' to deny whatever is politically inconvenient. I guess you 2 guys may not have that luxury.
Oh & people are not property.
& properties are not people.
A piece of property, including the legal fictive corporations or various business property appellations do not magically become people. No matter how much you pout or whine about it. People are people. Magical thinking is magical thinking, including Free Market fundamentalist magical thinking.
I don't know what much of this means.
A man should not be forced at gunpoint to serve a customer. That's slavery.
All involuntary government sucks. U.S. government, Confederacy, Cook County Illinois, whatever.
People are their own property. What they produce is part of who they are. If not for my mind and body this post wouldn't appear on this forum.
Give the corporations angle a rest. There are no corporations in Ancapistan. Corporations require legal recognition. There is no universal involuntary legal body to bestow such a designation on what we know as corporations today.
Magical thinking is in the statist paradigm. Social contracts, individuals without the right to do something suddenly gain that right if they vote on it...it's all mysticism.
A man should not be forced at gunpoint to serve a customer. That's slavery.
All involuntary government sucks. U.S. government, Confederacy, Cook County Illinois, whatever.
People are their own property. What they produce is part of who they are. If not for my mind and body this post wouldn't appear on this forum.
Give the corporations angle a rest. There are no corporations in Ancapistan. Corporations require legal recognition. There is no universal involuntary legal body to bestow such a designation on what we know as corporations today.
Magical thinking is in the statist paradigm. Social contracts, individuals without the right to do something suddenly gain that right if they vote on it...it's all mysticism.
Starting with your magical thinking slant, dig this:
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Originally Posted by whogo
You can also try to change the social contract.
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Originally Posted by No_Recess
You can't change something that doesn't exist.
You've also variously asserted 'government doesn't exist' & 'the state doesn't exist'.
The only place any of this ^ has meaning is in the 'state of solipsism'.
The rest of it is just the same old lame old Ron Paul sophistries.
So what. What else you got? Be real. The bs is borrowed, old, & lame.
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull$hit." - W. C. Fields
Seriously, that is the most ridiculous statement around. GTFO.
slavery is a lack of consent to a labor arrangement. Public accomodation laws dictate to a business owner who they must serve. The analogy isn't ridiculous at all.
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