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Old 06-06-2018, 10:02 AM
 
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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I don't believe in "blessings" but I am certainly glad safe, legal abortion is available to any woman who wants one, yes.
I couldn’t care less about the safety or health of any party other than the murdered baby.
 
Old 06-06-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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Sharon Osbourne: Having an Abortion Was the "Worst Thing I Ever Did" | LifeNews.com


She recounted: “I had an abortion at 17 and it was the worst thing I ever did . . . I went alone. I was terrified. It was full of other young girls, and we were all terrified and looking at each other and nobody was saying a bloody word. I howled my way through it, and it was horrible. I would never recommend it to anyone because it comes back to haunt you. When I tried to have children, I lost three — I think it was because something had happened to my cervix during the abortion.”

It would be great if she started a program to educate teen girls on the bad effects of abortion.
I think if they should add to the program the bad effects of what could happen with an abortion. Don't keep it one sided, but give all the facts and both sides.
When I was a teen I met a couple of women who had abortions and because they went bad, they were unable to have babies because of it. Also the mental effects it had broke my heart. Talking to other teens about it who were pregnant about these women experiences helped them to decide against aborting their babies. About 8 years ago, a few of the friends from my teen years found me on FB and thanked me for being that voice to show both sides. Today their babies are in their 20's.
 
Old 06-06-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: My House
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Sharon Osbourne: Having an Abortion Was the "Worst Thing I Ever Did" | LifeNews.com


She recounted: “I had an abortion at 17 and it was the worst thing I ever did . . . I went alone. I was terrified. It was full of other young girls, and we were all terrified and looking at each other and nobody was saying a bloody word. I howled my way through it, and it was horrible. I would never recommend it to anyone because it comes back to haunt you. When I tried to have children, I lost three — I think it was because something had happened to my cervix during the abortion.”

It would be great if she started a program to educate teen girls on the bad effects of abortion.
And plenty of other women have had abortions and been relieved... and have gone on to have kids later OR have gone on to happily remain child-free.

Sharon isn't speaking for all women any more than Kanye speaks for all black people.

Sure, it's good to hear her story AND the stories of others who have had abortions while you are evaluating an unexpected and unwanted pregnancy, but her saying this doesn't mean that others who have this procedure will look back and feel the way she feels in hindsight.

She had the procedure. It's not like she decided against it at the time, is it?
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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I couldn’t care less about the safety or health of any party other than the murdered baby.
Shocking!

Also, maybe a shock to you: I couldn't have cared less what anyone thought about me having an abortion other than the physician who performed it.
 
Old 06-06-2018, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Of course it's the worst thing she's ever done....what's worse than having your child killed?
Then just what do you want to see happen? A law passed requiring all pregnant women to give birth? Refusal to give birth means a murder charge?
 
Old 06-06-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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I think if they should add to the program the bad effects of what could happen with an abortion. Don't keep it one sided, but give all the facts and both sides.
When I was a teen I met a couple of women who had abortions and because they went bad, they were unable to have babies because of it. Also the mental effects it had broke my heart. Talking to other teens about it who were pregnant about these women experiences helped them to decide against aborting their babies. About 8 years ago, a few of the friends from my teen years found me on FB and thanked me for being that voice to show both sides. Today their babies are in their 20's.
In all fairness, one is more likely to die in childbirth than during an abortion.

One is more likely to suffer damage that might prevent future pregnancies during childbirth than during an abortion.

Mentally, pregnancy can be very tough on a person as well. They have postpartum depression and postpartum anxiety as disorders in the DSM for a reason.

Truth is, back-alley abortions are more dangerous than pregnancy OR than legal, safe abortions.

If people really care about the reproductive health of women, they'll keep abortion safe and legal.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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in all fairness, one is more likely to die in childbirth than during an abortion.

One is more likely to suffer damage that might prevent future pregnancies during childbirth than during an abortion.

Mentally, pregnancy can be very tough on a person as well. They have postpartum depression and postpartum anxiety as disorders in the dsm for a reason.

Truth is, back-alley abortions are more dangerous than pregnancy or than legal, safe abortions.

If people really care about the reproductive health of women, they'll keep abortion safe and legal.
This, times 100.
 
Old 06-06-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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So if it's about the unborn baby's protection, how about we offer at least 6 months of paid maternity leave that allows women to recover from childbirth and also allows them to take the time they need in case of complication from pregnancy that requires bedrest), universal healthcare that covers the pregnancy and any health conditions that arise during pregnancy, coverage for postpartum depresssion, and affordable childcare options.

Oh wait, it's not about protecting the unborn baby at all.
Your point?
 
Old 06-06-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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In all fairness, one is more likely to die in childbirth than during an abortion.

One is more likely to suffer damage that might prevent future pregnancies during childbirth than during an abortion.

Mentally, pregnancy can be very tough on a person as well. They have postpartum depression and postpartum anxiety as disorders in the DSM for a reason.

Truth is, back-alley abortions are more dangerous than pregnancy OR than legal, safe abortions.

If people really care about the reproductive health of women, they'll keep abortion safe and legal.
I'm aware since I am a mom myself and had issues with my own pregnancies and afterwards.

My point was this: If they are going to discuss it, discuss ALL aspects. My son came home last week and told me they discussed C-sections in health class and the video they showed grossed him out. I sat my son down and explained congrats that's how you were born and explained to him everything that led up to it and how I struggled with just the thought of having an emergency c-section and everything I dealt with afterwards. Showed him the medical records also. He was shocked and said that he was not told that all that can happen that the lesson was very general. So...yes. ALL aspects, not just generics.
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