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Old 06-07-2018, 02:21 PM
 
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So I guess you favour the Chinese model of governance then?
No, I favor ours, which you apparently do not.
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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No issue with that -my issue is when people claim that Hillary lost because of such and such a reason.

When votes aren't intended to be equal, outcomes don't necessarily reflect popular opinion.
To win she needed votes from people like me. There was NO way I was going to vote for her.
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Only problem with her statement is that the consumer confidence numbers are near record highs. What is wrong with this lady?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdl_6g8x4ns


What a ****ing nut!!!

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/...creased-in-may
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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No, I favor ours, which you apparently do not.
You favour "specialness" of some votes over others.
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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You favour "specialness" of some votes over others.
Nope, because nobody gets extra special votes, now you are just making things up. We don't live in a pure democracy, not sure why this is suddenly news to people, but it definitely reinforces what I said about not wanting a popular vote because lots of people don't even understand some of the things they are voting for.

We live in a representative democracy, you should do some research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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To win she needed votes from people like me. There was NO way I was going to vote for her.
As it should be, but can all voters say the same?
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Hillary lost because she and her supporters thought she had it in the bag and got lazy down the stretch in some key swing-states.

As for your complaint, that's like saying Cleveland lost because not every basket is considered equal...even though those are the accepted rules by all participants and strategies are built accordingly.
There was nothing they could have done to get me to vote for her. It's odd that someone would complain about a system that has been in place forever but then not be upset that the system was rigged in the primaries.
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Nope, because nobody gets extra special votes, now you are just making things up. We don't live in a pure democracy, not sure why this is suddenly news to people, but it definitely reinforces what I said about not wanting a popular vote because lots of people don't even understand some of the things they are voting for.

We live in a representative democracy, you should do some research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
That's why it can't be said that Hillary lost because of her policies.
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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Of course Pelosi is going to spin this, it's her job...one that she has been terrible at for a long time.

But the democrats have been unable to force her out of her leadership role because she's good at bringing in big wall-street and other corporate money and is part of "Team Clinton".

Not sure why smart pubs hate Pelosi, she's been one of the anchors dragging behind the democrats boat for years.
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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There was nothing they could have done to get me to vote for her. It's odd that someone would complain about a system that has been in place forever but then not be upset that the system was rigged in the primaries.
Any system that waters down individuals votes, should be viewed as exactly that.
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