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Old 06-07-2018, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I chuckle at this argument from someone with your viewpoint. Stuff like Heroin will kill you. Alright, there is nothing one can do if someone decides to kill themselves but then you are going to have a fit over the fact that the government is then on the hook for the kids they leave behind and no, the church's are not going to care for them.
Sugar, wheat, and trans fats will kill you. Yet they are all legal and still should be. Fat-asses will die early deaths, too.

88,000 people in the U.S. die each year from alcohol-related causes; we saw how Prohibition turned out.

There are plenty of charities to take care of orphans. And it's not like there's an heroin/opioid crisis or anything currently even though it's illegal.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Sure they can, it's hard to exercise your rights from a jail cell.
You still have those rights just because someone violates them doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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I can support this. Lots of budgets gonna need reworking. Expect speeding tickets to rise.

Pot smokers typically don't speed, may even drive a little slow. I don't think speeding tickets will rise unless Meth or Coke is legalized.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Sure they can, it's hard to exercise your rights from a jail cell.
If the government only enforced crimes that involve a victim (murder, rape, assault, theft/robbery, trespass, fraud, libel/slander) the jail population would shrink by 90%. Prisons pretty much only exist because of victimless "crimes."

And rights exist with or without a government and in or out of a jail cell.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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so why do the liberals constantly want more federal laws and things set at the federal level

this is why there should NOT be a federal minimum wage... min wage should be set at the 1500 different economies through-out the country
The Constitution does allow the feds to pre-empt state/local law. And some things have always been strictly in the federal domain, like immigration law.

Whether a particular pre-emption is desirable or not depends entirely on whose ox is being gored. Nevertheless, Congress can - and does - do it on occasion. They haven't done it with any drug laws AFAIK. So sometimes it's the state who catches and prosecutes you, sometimes it's the feds, and sometimes it's both. IME, both the states and the feds are quite adept at cooperating to maximize this situation in any of the criminal offense areas where both the states and the feds prosecute.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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For anyone looking for a cliffnotes, 1pg rundown of the bill, you can view it here:

https://joyce.house.gov/uploads/STAT...0One-Pager.pdf

The full bill here:

https://joyce.house.gov/uploads/JOYC...TATES_xml2.pdf

A step inthe right direction, and a seemingly good work around for the Dinosaurs in congress who have said they would never make cannabis legal at the federal level.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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You still have those rights just because someone violates them doesn't mean they don't exist.
Lol……you're adorable.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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If the government only enforced crimes that involve a victim (murder, rape, assault, theft/robbery, trespass, fraud, libel/slander) the jail population would shrink by 90%. Prisons pretty much only exist because of victimless "crimes."

And rights exist with or without a government and in or out of a jail cell.
Yea, but its kinda hard o exercise your right to, oh, I don't know, ride your bike or feed pigeons in the park, when you are only allowed out of your cell for a walk in the yard one hour a day.

Just sayin'...
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Lol……you're adorable.
Does a woman have a right to an abortion?
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Most Americans will support this. Most of Congress won't.
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