Magellan never sailed around the world.

[Hyperthetic]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

In tRump world, there's no way Magellan could have sailed around a flat earth.

I had a record player once that had a needle that tracked the record going round and around.

[ryanst530]

Originally Posted by whogo

The lesson of Magellan is to stAy away from entangling alliances.

That would put weaker countries at a major disadvantage against aggressive powers.

It would cause a major power imbalance around the world, and encourage the more powerful countries to become more aggressive.

Bad idea.

[godofthunder9010]

I always figured that everyone knew about this.

[T-310]

Originally Posted by katzpaw

The US was avenging Magellan when it invaded the Philippines in 1898. The Philippines treated Magellan very unfairly, very unfairly, believe me.

Spain colonized the Philippine islands.

The US kicked Spain out of the Philippines and after WWII the US gave the islands their independence. We invaded nothing.

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by whogo

The lesson of Magellan is to stAy away from entangling alliances.

What entangling alliances? With the oceans?

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by katzpaw

The US was avenging Magellan when it invaded the Philippines in 1898. The Philippines treated Magellan very unfairly, very unfairly, believe me.

Very funny, let's see who gets it...

Originally Posted by T-310

Spain colonized the Philippine islands.

The US kicked Spain out of the Philippines and after WWII the US gave the islands their independence. We invaded nothing.

Oh.

[hlyst]

Originally Posted by whogo

One of the first Westerners who stuck his nose where it didn’t belong.

And AMERICANS sailed around the Middle East for CRUDE OIL.

[southwest88]

Originally Posted by T-310

Spain colonized the Philippine islands.

The US kicked Spain out of the Philippines and after WWII the US gave the islands their independence. We invaded nothing.

In 1898CE? We went to war with Spain & took Cuba, Puerto Rico & the Philippines. We released Cuba, we kept PR - now a self-governing commonwealth associated with the US, I think the term is. We hung on to the Philippines, nice harbor, good base for jumping off to Korea, Japan, China & anybody else out there we'd like to investigate.

Our history with the Philippines is fairly twisty. We tracked down & transported (& armed?) the exiled Philippine freedom fighter leader back to the Philippines. We allowed the surviving defeated Spanish forces to form up & march out nicely, flags flying, & kept the Philippine insurgents we'd backed (with promises of independence, if they'd just throw in with us) well away from the victory laps, parades, speeches, forming the next government, & so on. Then we turned on them, & they didn't want to play along. That was the US invasion.

Spain was there for a good 400 years, from 1521. Spanish became one of the languages, & Roman Catholicism one of the religions - along with Spanish architecture & culture, especially in the cities. The US' official take was that we were going to Christianize the islands - a surprise to the Spanish, no doubt, who had established Catholicism everywhere they could on the islands. Some people are simply never satisfied, I suppose.

As for Philippine independence after WWII, I think the Philippine people more than earned it. They certainly paid dearly for it, fighting off & resisting Imperial Japan.