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No need to lecture me about athletics. I have been in the biz for 40 plus years.
If you think that men competing with women can be argued as being fair or even merely not dangerous, then you've obviously never been an athlete. Even someone with close time with women on a regular basis would know that women and men are not on a level playing field in any way.
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No display of unfair advantages.
I highly doubt that. You seem like the type to ignore all bad outcomes to forward a political agenda.
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In fact none of the trans women in college sports have ever been talented or competitive enough to compete at the D2 or D1 level. If advantaged Jessica Platt from the" Canadian Womens Hockey League" would of made their national team. In fact she never was selected for an all-star game.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with politics. We know that All Star selections are never subjective.
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Once again those that are the experts in the field will tell you there may be advantages in strength, but dis-advantages in speed and stamina which makes for a level playing field.
In sports where strength matters, there is no "leveling the playing field". Especially where injury can occur. And you won't be able to allow them to play in one arena and deny them another. Thus, they shouldn't be allowed to compete with women.
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There was a study done on trans runners and cyclists after completion of a year of T suppression with results showing on average they were 2 percent slower then cis-gender females.
Did you just use the term "cis-gender" in a sincere conversation?? My word, you've lost all credibility.
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Like it or not, it is what it is, and women's sports will keep on doing just fine. High School sports need to adapt polices in line with the NCAA and IOC.
If the surgery has not been done, she should still compete with boys.
A higher testosterone level, at any point in the lifespan, permanently alters the nature of the muscle fiber. Surgery or not, he would still have a man's muscles.
I stated that in sports were strength is the main facet, such as weightlifting or combat sports, a more extensive look needs to be taken. Take MMA Fallon Fox for example. She totally destroyed her last opponent but also lost to an opponent. Joe Rogan talking about her, said she is not that skilled and would be completely destroyed by a top ranked women opponent. So where is that huge un-fair advantage?
You'e obviously never seriously competed in any type of combat sport. If you haven't, then your opinion on the matter is completely worthless.
Joe Rogan has been 100% against Fallon fighting females.
Moreover, he's not the arbiter of combat sports. The man has never wrestled competitively nor fought in MMA competitively. His experience is limited to martial arts, which doesn't remotely compare, and training. What he says or thinks also holds little weight. He's a good commentator and interviewer who takes steroids and lifts. He's not an authority, nor special in combat sports, no mater what he says.
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I mean yes some trans females will have advantages over some cis-gender females just as some cis-gender females will have advantages over other cis-gender females.
You are talking straight out of your a#$ and clearly have zero idea about the subject matter that you are pretending to know.
You'e obviously never seriously competed in any type of combat sport. If you haven't, then your opinion on the matter is completely worthless.
Joe Rogan has been 100% against Fallon fighting females.
Moreover, he's not the arbiter of combat sports. The man has never wrestled competitively nor fought in MMA competitively. His experience is limited to martial arts, which doesn't remotely compare, and training. What he says or thinks also holds little weight. He's a good commentator and interviewer who takes steroids and lifts. He's not an authority, nor special in combat sports, no mater what he says.
You are talking straight out of your a#$ and clearly have zero idea about the subject matter that you are pretending to know.
Never implied I competed or even knew much about MMA. I even stated combat sports is one area where the policy needs to be looked at. I also know Rogan does not like Fallen Fox competing, but if her skill set is as bad as he says, and would not be competitive against a top rank fighter, whats the problem?
As far as other sports I am not talking about a guys competing against women, I am talking about trans females that have under-gone T suppression competing against women. I am not an expert in anyway on that topic but listen to the ones that are, and am also aware of the practical reality side of it based on what is happening currently in sports.
If you don't like the term cis-gender. To bad!! That's the term used to differentiate between trans and non trans people.
As far as my resume, not that it all matters on the topic, I am a former pro baseball player and Division 1 College Coach (Power Conference School). Upon retirement (here is where it matters) I became what they call a "sports diversity and inclusion specialist". Started as an advocate and member for a non-profit called "Athlete Ally", and later joined up and currently with another non-profit "You Can Play Project". We work closely with HS, college and pro sports on LGBT inclusion. Both these groups include hundreds of college, pro athletes and coaches, straight, gay, bi and transgender.
Now like it or not, it is what it is. Both the NCAA and IOC policies were put in place where changes could be made if it turns out it's bad policy. So far no indication.
Hell, when the story broke about trans women running in the Boston Marathon, right wing talk radio exploded saying a women will never win it again. Well 5 trans runners and not one of them even placed.
There is more than a slight advantage when it comes to physical strength
Men have a larger musculature, larger hearts, larger lungs - they have distinct advantages over women when it comes to both speed and stamina. Men also have more fast twitch muscle fibers than women (giving them an advantage in both overall strength and every fast-twitch muscle fiber dominant sport - which is every sport except endurance sports).
Women have more slow twitch muscle fibers which makes them more fatigue resistant. I was an adventure racer so I saw this for years.
I've been educated in this, worked in this, and was a state champion in two different sports (judo and karate) and competed at the national level in a different sport (adventure racing).
I'm not kidding. This trend will be devastating to girls and women on so many levels.
Agree. Eventually, "girls'" teams will be made up of transgendered females, who will beat out cis-gender females. Completely unfair to girls who have spent years of effort to master a sport.
2. Everything I need to know about the agenda of those pushing this crap is included in the link:
Asked about the two girls who worked for years who got knocked out of the finals by Miller and Yearwood and the two girls who finished seventh and eighth in the finals who were denied a chance to compete in the New England championships, CIAC executive director Karissa Niehoff said, “We do feel for them. Fully agree it doesn’t feel good. The optic isn’t good. But we really do have to look at the bigger issues that speak to civil rights and the fact this is high school sports.”
3. Everything I need to know about you is included in the bolded ^^^^
I am disgusted and disheartened by this, because I used to be one of those shy, introverted, overweight, unathletic, self-conscious girls who found herself through athletics.
Success in martial arts turned into a college education in recreation management. An entire professional career in YMCA's, Parks and Recreation and corporate wellness translated into work with early childhood recreation, youth recreation, adult fitness, senior fitness, aquatics management and facility management, and first responder wellness and injury prevention. A life as a gym rat turned into a love of running, weight lifting, swimming, mountain biking, rappelling, orienteering - which evolved into dedicated training in my 40s as an adventure racer (eventually leading to the nationals).
I KNOW how this will affect girls. Again I say (for the last time because I'm done with this thread) - the effects will be devastating and this toxic agenda severely sets girls and women back in our society.
I stated that in sports were strength is the main facet, such as weightlifting or combat sports, a more extensive look needs to be taken. Take MMA Fallon Fox for example. She totally destroyed her last opponent but also lost to an opponent. Joe Rogan talking about her, said she is not that skilled and would be completely destroyed by a top ranked women opponent. So where is that huge un-fair advantage?
I mean yes some trans females will have advantages over some cis-gender females just as some cis-gender females will have advantages over other cis-gender females.
So... since the advantage to "trans women" in sports isn't so huge that it overcomes all other factors and causes every trans woman to win every single competition against every woman, then it isn't unfair? Could you really be making that silly an argument?
If someone elects to change themselves into a woman legally, why shouldn't they have the right to identify as "women" in all matters? (i.e sports, Affirmative Action quotas etc).
Should they be allowed to identify as women in some situations, while being denied to do so in others?
but they are NOT biologically a female, and never will be, you can change cosmetically, but not biologics
but they are NOT genetically a female, and never will be, you can change cosmetically, but not genetics
and they are NOT chromosomally a female, and never will be, you can change cosmetically, but not your chromosomes
trans is a neurological disorder.... a faulty wiring.... just because they ''think'' they ''feel'' like a woman in a mans body, doesn't mean that it is anywhere near true.
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