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Old 06-09-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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Well, the US is in debt thanks to the endless wars.

Since adding to the national debt is out of the question when considering how to budget universal healthcare, the same standard should apply to all the wars.

So how much are YOU really willing to pay for them?
Obama and the dem politicians doubled the national debt while they were in control.

Do you spend beyond your means, well neither should our country. Giving away free items should only be for a country that has a surplus, not one who is deep in dept. Someday we will all have to pay for the debt when the dollar collapses or gets replaced by one that will give us a percentage back on what we have.
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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Neither did I and I did not vote for him or his policies.
You put the blame on "Dem Politicians". If you had blamed "Politicians" then I wouldn't have said anything.
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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What about all the people that don’t work? Where does their contribution magically come from ? Btw did you know that Medicare actually costs around $10k/person/yr?

So yah you can redirect 400/month for ONE insured but then you ALSO need to pay another 400/month PLUS you need to pay the Medicare premiums AND the Part B and such things.
No, you would simply be replacing medicaid with medicare. A low income senior who has medicare coverage receives supplemental medicaid coverage. With medicare for all, medicare would cover 100%.
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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Obama and the dem politicians doubled the national debt while they were in control.
Here we go again. Bush did the same thing and Trump is continuing to.
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: London
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Obama and the dem politicians doubled the national debt while they were in control.
You're really gonna conveniently skip over Bush Jr there? lol
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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You put the blame on "Dem Politicians". If you had blamed "Politicians" then I wouldn't have said anything.
Well who was in power doubling the debt during the Obama years, a hint, the dem politicians at least the first two years and Obama doubled the debt, so is he not a dem politician.
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:28 AM
 
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Well who was in power doubling the debt during the Obama years, a hint, the dem politicians at least the first two years and Obama doubled the debt, so is he not a dem politician.
Another hypocritical evader. Like the rest the best thing to do is ignore you.
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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Another hypocritical evader. Like the rest the best thing to do is ignore you.
Yup ignore the inconvenient truth, that is what liberals are best at.
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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Yup ignore the inconvenient truth, that is what liberals are best at.
I am pro-life. I fully support the second amendment. I believe we need a balanced budget amendment. What makes me a "liberal" other than your desire to create a boogeyman?
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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No, you would simply be replacing medicaid with medicare. A low income senior who has medicare coverage receives supplemental medicaid coverage. With medicare for all, medicare would cover 100%.
A program that covers 100%

1) Is not Medicare. Medicare has cost sharing. Overall it's a bit worse than most employer plans but a lot better than standard silver exchange plans.

2) Will cost more than Medicare, holding how much you pay doctors, hospitals, etc. constant, because $0 cost sharing = a lot of unnecessary services.

You also failed to answer the PP's question by saying it will replace Medicaid. Medicaid pays a lot less for services. You'll need to find the resources to make up the difference from somewhere.
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