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Old 06-10-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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This thread shows how much Trump supporters don't care about our country.
The end is always worth the means in their opinions....just as the dude above who says we'd ALL rob a bank, given the choice. Would we all shoot heroin? Would we all cheat on our wives 10X over? Would we all kill our enemies (people) if we could get away with it?

They would. And some do. Money can let you get away with things....

So, what is the "end" they desire? Honestly, they don't know. They just know they are filled with hate and rage (could come from many sources) and are Authoritarians. So, by nature, anything Trump is OK even if it is 100% against our traditions and civilization.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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The end is always worth the means in their opinions....just as the dude above who says we'd ALL rob a bank, given the choice. Would we all shoot heroin? Would we all cheat on our wives 10X over? Would we all kill our enemies (people) if we could get away with it?

They would. And some do. Money can let you get away with things....

So, what is the "end" they desire? Honestly, they don't know. They just know they are filled with hate and rage (could come from many sources) and are Authoritarians. So, by nature, anything Trump is OK even if it is 100% against our traditions and civilization.
Nailed it. Trump supporters don't even know what they want, let alone understand the very complex issues that Trump knows nothing about but is heavily involved in. Immigration, trade tariffs, North Korea, healthcare. Donald Trump doesn't have a clue about any of the intricate details that go along with these extremely complex issues. Yet he thinks he knows how to fix them.

If you ever saw one of Trump's rallies, you could take one look at the people there and tell they don't have a freaking clue about any of the issues either. Most Trump supporters are old white people from rural America, and they're just angry that America isn't as white, as Christian, and as conservative as it used to be when they were younger. So they love and cheer for Trump because Trump hates Mexicans, Muslims, and gay people.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Nailed it. Trump supporters don't even know what they want, let alone understand the very complex issues that Trump knows nothing about but is heavily involved in. Immigration, trade tariffs, North Korea, healthcare. Donald Trump doesn't have a clue about any of the intricate details that go along with these extremely complex issues. Yet he thinks he knows how to fix them.
Well, at least Trump is not going around appeasing foreign countries and apologizing to the world like Obama did. (Let alone Hillary if she became President.)

So, I'm good with that.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:37 AM
 
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This thread shows how much Trump supporters don't care about our country.
Pretty clear.

Though to be fair however, it is not clear how many Trump supporters on this thread or on this forum claim the U.S. as their country.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Good lord. How in the hell does a comment like this help anything?

Do Trump and his lemming supporters think this makes us "look strong?" By insulting our neighboring ally?

https://twitter.com/vmsalama/status/1005810616240664576
Canadian officials are baffled by Trump’s comments: Trump's tweets undo weekend of G7 diplomacy

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"Based on Justin's false statements at his news conference, and the fact that Canada is charging massive Tariffs to our U.S. farmers, workers and companies, I have instructed our U.S. Reps not to endorse the communiqué as we look at tariffs on automobiles flooding the U.S. Market!," Trump tweeted.

Trump proceeded to blast Trudeau as "meek and mild" and "very dishonest and weak" in a barrage that was sparked by the prime minister's assertion that U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum were "insulting" and his insistence that Canada would not be pushed around.
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But a senior Canadian official says the use of the word "insulting" was deliberate and lifted from a conversation with Trump at last year's G7.

During a one-on-one meeting in Taormina, Italy, the two leaders discussed Trump's desire to use tariffs to boost the American steel and aluminum sectors. According to the official, Trump gave assurances that Canada would be spared the hit saying "it would be an insult to Canada" to call them a national security threat
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The senior official says that before the prime minister appeared on Meet the Press a week ago, he called Trump and told him what he would say. After the appearance was over, Trudeau spoke to Trump again and told him he would keep saying it until the tariffs were lifted.

So the prime minister's comments on Saturday should not have been a surprise to anyone.
It sounds as if Trump has a serious case of amnesia.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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Watching our President on the Canadian TV I really had to say how adept, smart and accomplished he has become in one year. He is on our side, he is going to make America strong and a true advocate for peace.

So exciting.

Now to all the people who will cite labels, stories or other echo chamber statements please join us and grow into what is going on. The slights and the small minded criticism are relegating you to failures and to history....

So go on....take the risk to listen to what he is doing....for US. If you cannot or won't please know that the
the rest of the USA are leaving....and enjoying success.

We are winning with him in the head of state.
This is sarcasm, yes?
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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Ever since the U.S. unemployment rate came down to 3.8%.
You think a complete lack of manners and diplomacy is a good thing? A sign of strength?
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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well, I don't really have much compassion towards our so called "allies". However, let's see if Trump would end up punishing China. This is the bottom line for me.

He said China was the biggest "offender", well, let's see if he would punish the biggest offender.

I voted for him because I agreed with him on trade. I need to see some result. If he only punished Allies, not China, then I would admit I made a mistake voting him.
Appreciate your honesty.

It WILL be interesting to watch how Trump handles China, our biggest "offender." I'm guessing he won't handle them much at all, considering he chooses to have his apparel line, as but one example, manufactured there. We'll see.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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Trump is setting the world on fire and is ruining the US' reputation beyond repair. If our democratic process is going to produce so much instability in the world every 4 years the rest of the world is going to treat the US like a contagion and will increasingly isolate the US while turning elsewhere. It's amazing how one generation of Americans can completely ruin everything in the span of only a few presidencies that was built after WWII.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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This is a pretty good analysis:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...141815039.html
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