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Oddly enough, you might be right. While many do not trust the police, many people are far more afraid of their fellow citizens.
Its more that they are scared of any negative consequences stemming from taking the side against LE or authority, they are scared for their jobs, incomes, homes, bank accts, etc.
Americans dont really have that patriotic spirit anymore, its been replaced by obedience mostly, Ive said before, if the Boston Tea party happened in our times, many people would be calling for those involved to be arrested and thrown away for life, and they would turn them over to police in a freakin heartbeat, if they knew who it was!
It took many years to achieve this kind of a public though, it didnt just happen overnight, took alot of conditioning and brainwashing over time.
are people advocating the severely mentally ill, drug addicts, and criminal homeless be compelled to accept medical help for their own sake? in a society that values civil rights, the homeless can not be forced into treatment or to live in a shelter.
tax paying citizens also have rights. allowing the homeless to ravage a community with human waste, violence, and used needles is not acceptable and should not be tolerated.
This.
There is a process by which the mentally ill and drug addicts can be compelled to institutions capable of providing them a safe environment and treatment. We need to be willing to utilize adjudication to find them mentally incompetent and do so. Best thing for them and for the law abiding, productive citizens of the state. Unfortunately progressives have destroyed these systems with claims that they want to "help" the mentally incompetent-instead of providing institutions, they prefer that they live like animals on public property.
I'm pretty impressed by the ignorance in this thread.
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Some of them unfortunately are mentally ill. There's no easy answer to this one.
All people who are chronically homeless are mentally ill, and almost all are druggies and alcoholics.
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I'm always fascinated by the way so called "religious states" deal with those that are struggling.
Oklahoma has had a surge in the number of homeless, in large part because of the generosity of our churches and other aid organizations. I met some homeless people from Colorado who were on the bus to Oklahoma City, because they said it was much better to be homeless in OKC than in Colorado because of the benefits/weather.
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Republicans feel that only churches, private charities and individuals should help the needy, not the government
I agree with the Republicans. Why is it better that the government helps people instead of private charities, churches, and individuals?
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Giving out free stuff encourages more deadbeats to show up. Stick them on a freight train heading west.
44% of the homeless have a job sometimes two. Its almost like in some cases they are being squeezed out by the rich.
There are at least three "classes" of people who qualify as homeless. You have the homeless who live on the streets, you have the homeless who live in shelters, and you have people who live temporarily with friends/family who are legally homeless(and can claim benefits as homeless) but who aren't homeless in the practical sense.
Very very few people who live on the streets are employed. For homeless shelters it depends a lot on the shelter. Most accept basically everyone, and require nothing of them. Others have work programs, where you are required to be looking for work, as well as working for the shelter(often with their food pantry program, donation-sorting, etc), and operate more like halfway houses.
Most of the people who are considered homeless and who are employed, are people who are living on a temporary basis with friends/family. Most people would have no idea that those people are legally homeless.
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If Republican policies worked, Oklahoma should be a shining example to the nation of a great, prosperous, desirable state yet it's not. In fact, probably only Mississippi is a worse place to live.
You don't seem to understand how economics works. Oklahoma is the way it is because of the industries/opportunities we have here. This state has oil/gas and agriculture, poor weather, no coastline, no major rivers, no mountains, etc. If we adopted California policies we wouldn't be better off, we would go broke.
Oklahoma has its problems, but for most people, life is better here than it would be for them anywhere else. I hate to sound rude, but the problems in states like Oklahoma and Mississippi, are more problems of geography and demography than politics.
This idea that you could turn the entire country into silicon valley if we all just ran our cities/states like San Jose, is to have an impoverished understanding of why technology companies are there to begin with.
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Ordinance in San Antonio against living under the bridges as well. Our city official are mostly democrats, like that matters. But where SA might be different, we also have shelters for the homeless. They are required to work, if that's what you want to call it. Like clean up the kitchen after meals are served, clean floors, clean the toilets, showers, do laundry, just the basics of decent living. Most don't mind doing something, it's not like an 8 hour job, but like everything, you always have those are expecting it done for them. Works pretty good here. But, unlike Kalifornia, we give the illegals a ride back home to Mexico. Most will be back again and do it all over until they get tired of walking the 150 miles up here.
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Homelessness In Oklahoma Leads to Ban On Life Under Bridges
