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While I agree with on most of your positions do you really think Canada wants nothing from us. At issue is the Canadian supply-management system, which covers dairy, eggs, and poultry products. The system sets domestic production quotas and keeps prices stable, thereby guaranteeing farmers a steady income. And, in order to keep the supply stable, Canada blocks imports from other countries, including the U.S., by imposing tariffs—up to 270 percent on dairy products. About 80 percent of Canada’s dairy farmers are concentrated in two provinces, Quebec and Ontario, both of which are crucial to Trudeau’s political fortunes. (The system is by no means universally popular in Canada.) In the mean time 370 dairy farms in Wisconsin went belly up last year.......
Spot on. And ironically, while they allow 10% of milk to be imported, the U.S. only allows 3% of milk to be imported. Hypocrisy much? Wisconsin farmers themselves say the problem is not Canada, it's deregulation. They are simply massively overproducing milk. And don't forget, Trump trashes Mexico, which is one of, if not the largest U.S. milk importer. They buy $1.2 Billion worth of milk from the U.S. and Trump calls them rapists. Now they are looking at getting their milk from New Zealand instead.
Justin is underwater in Canada - his approval numbers in the dumpster and his Party just lost their status in the Largest province in Canada. He took a lot of ridicule after his visit to India with his costumed Dancing ..... so he wanted to be the "tough guy". That was to boost his Political position during elections.
He didn't just stab the President of the United States who was going to the biggest Summit in our lifetimes, he stabbed himself and his Party right in the gut.
The NDP will continue to work with all stakeholders, including labour, producers and industry groups, to ensure Canada’s trade remedy system is effectively strengthened to respond to the sector’s needs.
Second, on April 20, 2017 U.S. President Donald Trump issued a Presidential Memorandum ordering a U.S. Department of Commerce investigation under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 into the impact of steel imports on U.S. national security. The NDP is deeply concerned by the potential outcomes of this investigation for Canada’s steel industry, including that the U.S. may apply tariffs on steel imports from Canada and that Canada may increasingly be used as a dumping ground for cheap foreign-produced steel.
There is significant risk to Canada’s steel sector if our two countries’ trade remedy systems diverge. If the U.S. government, through ‘Buy American’ policies or otherwise, imposes restrictions on steel imports or applies tariffs to Canadian steel as a result of the Section 232 investigation, the federal government should urgently seek an exemption from these restrictions or tariffs for Canadian steel. Furthermore, the government must actively work in close partnership with the U.S. to address global steel dumping, and it must demonstrate to the U.S. the importance of working together—not against one another—on this critical issue.
Looking ahead, Canada must consider the potential implications of a free trade agreement with China for our steel sector. The Liberal government has expressed its clear preference to negotiate a free trade agreement with the People’s Republic of China, which is the largest source of unfairly dumped steel. Witnesses consistently told our Committee that Canada’s steel sector would have no problem competing on a level playing field, but it is impossible to compete with countries such as China that subsidize their producers and drive down global steel prices. The NDP urges the government to consider the testimony received by the Committee, and to remember that fair trade starts with following the rules and raising standards for working people.
Next up - the Canadian Auto Industry who are likely to get a large Tariff dumped on them - Thank You Justin. The most popular Toyota in the USA Today is the RAV - not a single one of them is produced in the USA - 60% come from Japan (Abe has already worked out a deal with Trump) and 40% come from Canada.
Sweet Justin just worked out that deal with Trump. Canada will reap that benefit.
Facts. And anyone who says different is just kidding him/herself.
Mexico uses us as a safety valve. South Americans are wary of us because our bullying and of all the crimes we’ve committed down there. They resent years of living under the Monroe Doctrine.
We haven’t a single friend in Asia. Everyone on that continent wants something or has an ulterior motive. You can practically see their leaders gritting their teeth when they shake any US president’s hand. Taiwan has obvious reasons to be obsequious. Japan uses us to save their own money on defense. Ditto Korea. Other Asian nations have accepted the inevitability of Chinese hegemony over the region sooner or later.
Africa is basically indifferent towards us. They look more to Europe, China and emerging nations like Brazil for guidance because all the United States is interested in is peddling weapons and chasing terrorist ghost across the continent.
The Middle East? Not a single friend. In fact, they think we’re the biggest fools on the planet. We’ve made the region a mess by destabilizing it. The Saudis laugh at us behind our backs and the Israelis use us as a blunt object against their enemies. Both nations would kick us to the curb the minute they didn’t need us for something. The Turks think that we’re interlopers who constantly stir up trouble...trouble that ALWAYS causes them problems on their own borders.
Europe? LMAO...please. They see us as the dupes who subsidizes their defense while they lavish their citizens with goodies that Americans can only dream about. The British government pays friendship some lip service, but the British people have no use for us. Not to mention that Britain has gotten us in two world wars, and then screwed up the Middle East, only to hand us that soup sandwich and walk away from it. The British have NEVER been a friend for anything other than an ephemeral convenience.
Canada? The Canadians have never asked us for anything. They just want to get along and be a good neighbor. They’ve never done anything malicious to us, and when we’ve been maligned, they’ve stood quietly beside their neighbor to the south and remained a steady friend. They’ve even deployed troops to a few of our dumb wars. We should be very careful not to alienate our only friend.
I’ve said time and time again that I support Trump on trade, and I believe his heart is mostly in the right place on this issue. But if you’re gonna break the rules because they stink, the break another one and show our friends to the north some special dispensation on this and any other issue that you wouldn’t show another nation.
Don’t insult their prime minister publicly...and don’t air family grievances out like an idiot.
That’s all.
Counties don't have friends.
They have interests and alliances.
For as long as anyone can remember, Canada has benefited from the military umbrella our close proximity provides.
They have also enjoyed relatively unrestricted access to the world's greatest consumer market.
All and all, it's a pretty one-sided relationship with lots of room for Canada to improve.
Justin is underwater in Canada - his approval numbers in the dumpster and his Party just lost their status in the Largest province in Canada. He took a lot of ridicule after his visit to India with his costumed Dancing ..... so he wanted to be the "tough guy". That was to boost his Political position during elections.
Next up - the Canadian Auto Industry who are likely to get a large Tariff dumped on them - Thank You Justin. The most popular Toyota in the USA Today is the RAV - not a single one of them is produced in the USA - 60% come from Japan (Abe has already worked out a deal with Trump) and 40% come from Canada.
Sweet Justin just worked out that deal with Trump. Canada will reap that benefit.
Trudeau's approval is higher than Trump's.
The most popular Toyotas in the country are Corollas and Camry's, both of which are manufactured in the U.S.
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The President is a bully. He always needs an adversary - UNTIL he meets them face to face.
He will LOSE on this bigtime....and he'll drag us down with him.
So very true. Trump cannot function without an adversary to insult, it's why almost two years later, he still obsesses about Hillary.
Spot on. And ironically, while they allow 10% of milk to be imported, the U.S. only allows 3% of milk to be imported. Hypocrisy much? Wisconsin farmers themselves say the problem is not Canada, it's deregulation. They are simply massively overproducing milk. And don't forget, Trump trashes Mexico, which is one of, if not the largest U.S. milk importer. They buy $1.2 Billion worth of milk from the U.S. and Trump calls them rapists. Now they are looking at getting their milk from New Zealand instead.
Why should we import any milk? or anything else we cam produce here?
Why should we import any milk? or anything else we cam produce here?
So you're making Canada's argument. Their dairy farmers are fine, they receive no government subsidies and they don't pour millions of gallons of milk away. U.S. farmers do receive government subsidies and pour millions of gallons of milk down the drain all the time.
For as long as anyone can remember, Canada has benefited from the military umbrella our close proximity provides.
They have also enjoyed relatively unrestricted access to the world's greatest consumer market.
All and all, it's a pretty one-sided relationship with lots of room for Canada to improve.
Canadians don’t need our military umbrella, and has never once asked for it. They don’t start trouble around the world, and they mind their own business. If the Canadians have any issues, they’re more than capable of handling them on their own.
Every nation doesn’t genuflect at the notion of our military power. The Canadians have seen us lose enough wars to see through our tough acting facade.
And yeah, they enjoy access to our market...the same access you extend to nations that have little or no use for us. There’s nothing one sided about this relationship.
While I agree with on most of your positions do you really think Canada wants nothing from us. At issue is the Canadian supply-management system, which covers dairy, eggs, and poultry products. The system sets domestic production quotas and keeps prices stable, thereby guaranteeing farmers a steady income. And, in order to keep the supply stable, Canada blocks imports from other countries, including the U.S., by imposing tariffs—up to 270 percent on dairy products. About 80 percent of Canada’s dairy farmers are concentrated in two provinces, Quebec and Ontario, both of which are crucial to Trudeau’s political fortunes. (The system is by no means universally popular in Canada.) In the mean time 370 dairy farms in Wisconsin went belly up last year.......
Canada does currently import diary products from the US. Maybe they should just stop?
Countries do not have friends, they have interests. Right now, I think America is nobody's best friend.
But I agree with OP, Canada has not really taken advantage of us, they have always been there for us. I would say Canada is our strongest ally (friend) for sure. There are differences between ally and friend and I think Canada can be viewed as both.
Right now, I don't think so.
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