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Old 06-13-2018, 05:12 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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"Ahead of Father’s Day this Sunday, the pro-life organization “Save the Storks” is embarking on a powerful new video campaign, giving post-abortive men a chance to share their heartbreaking stories of how the procedure changed their lives permanently.

six-part #ChooseFatherhood social video series features four courageous men who are breaking their silence about their deeply personal abortion stories. Over 55 million men have experienced the pain, grief, heartache and guilt of abortion. Now, they are speaking out."


Abortion hurts more than just women.
Just going by your context, I dont have a problem with this.
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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Do you also mourn every miscarriage? Do you also mourn every "late period" which might have been an unknown early miscarriage?

As a mother, who had two miscarriages and an ectopic pregnancy, I do not know morn those. I am happy for the children, and now grandchildren, that I DO HAVE.

Get over it Dad. That attitude is an affront to the living children you do have.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Pro-abortion. Don't use manipulative language to absolve yourself of any moral implications behind what you support. I am pro abortion myself, I'm just honest about it. I think abortion is a necessary evil. It's not "pro-choice" and certainly not "anti-forced birth"...those are terms that weasels and cowards use, especially the latter one.


Men have responsibilities in these situations but that does not absolve the women of their own responsibilities, unless they were raped.
It is possible to be pro-choice and personally anti-abortion. Many people who would never choose abortion for themselves still respect the right of others to choose differently.

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Well no.

Pro abortions: we must kill the baby (care only about killing the baby)
Pro life: we must respect mother and baby (care about the life of both mother and baby)
Being pro-choice does not mean being pro-abortion.

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and maybe should have used the pill or some other form of birth control? Wouldn't you agree?

JAMS14, I was never as a child raised to think I was a second class citizen. I was raised to think I was equal and I could be anything I wanted to be.
About half the women who seek abortion were using some method of contraception in the cycle in which they conceived and sought an abortion.
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In seven states, plus D.C. some of them are, or at least they are allowed to. And no, the percentage doesn't matter. You use that number to minimize their humanity.


I am pro abortion but we gotta be honest about what we're doing here. All these efforts to justify and minimize what we're doing makes me think people don't want to be honest with themselves about it.
Elective abortions are not done at eight months gestation. If there is a reason to terminate a pregnancy at that point the result is a slightly preterm delivery.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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It is possible to be pro-choice and personally anti-abortion. Many people who would never choose abortion for themselves still respect the right of others to choose differently.
I don't really know how I feel about abortion. Probably won't unless I'm actually in the position where it might happen.

However, more importantly, I recognize women's rights to make their own choices regarding their bodies.

It's none of my business what they decide. Ironically that's a conservative stance, not a liberal one.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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It is possible to be pro-choice and personally anti-abortion. Many people who would never choose abortion for themselves still respect the right of others to choose differently.


If you support the legal right to have an abortion you are pro abortion, even if you wouldn't have one yourself. For example I have no interest in owning a gun but I am pro 2nd amendment. I'm not just pro gun choice. I'm pro gun ownership without owning a gun.

It's odd, the mental gymnastics people who support abortion will go to in order to deny that they are pro abortion. It's almost like they think there's something wrong with abortion.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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If it's Wednesday, Janelle must be posting a link to some slanted, right-wing pro-birth propaganda.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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If you support the legal right to have an abortion you are pro abortion, even if you wouldn't have one yourself. For example I have no interest in owning a gun but I am pro 2nd amendment. I'm not just pro gun choice. I'm pro gun ownership without owning a gun.

It's odd, the mental gymnastics people who support abortion will go to in order to deny that they are pro abortion. It's almost like they think there's something wrong with abortion.

And pro-lifers should be known as pro-birthers since they have made it abundantly clear that once that sacred "baby" has left the birth canal all bets are off.
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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It is possible to be pro-choice and personally anti-abortion. Many people who would never choose abortion for themselves still respect the right of others to choose differently.
You describe me. I am pro-choice as it is not my place to tell another person what they can do to their body. While I won't say anti-choice (not pro-abortion... that is a word designed to inflame), I do think that abortion should not be used as a simple means of birth control. Granted the majority are not, but some do use it that way, and that doesn't sit right with me.
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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If you support the legal right to have an abortion you are pro abortion, even if you wouldn't have one yourself. For example I have no interest in owning a gun but I am pro 2nd amendment. I'm not just pro gun choice. I'm pro gun ownership without owning a gun.

It's odd, the mental gymnastics people who support abortion will go to in order to deny that they are pro abortion. It's almost like they think there's something wrong with abortion.
If you feel that someone else should have the right to choose an abortion, even if you personally would not (no matter what your reasons are), then you are pro-choice. Those who are pro-choice also usually do not erect barriers to access to contraception the way those who are anti-choice do, such as relentlessly campaigning to close Planned Parenthood.
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:58 PM
 
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If it's Wednesday, Janelle must be posting a link to some slanted, right-wing pro-birth propaganda.
But you always need to look and post. LOL
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