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Old 06-15-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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Anyone who takes this seriously is a nut. These guys can't even get their models to predict an accurate 3 day, who in their right minds trusts them with a 20 or more years out prediction? You'd have to be insane to trust them.
You realize theres a difference between climate and weathr right?

 
Old 06-15-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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"leaked" LOL

planned
 
Old 06-15-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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Deniers are the same people who were:


WRONG ON ACID RAIN


WRONG ON CFCS


WRONG ON DDT


WRONG ON DUMPING TOXINS IN STREAMS


WRONG ON CLEAN WATER AND CLEAN AIR REGULATIONS


WRONG ON CLIMATE CHANGE
 
Old 06-15-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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Deniers are the same people who were:


WRONG ON ACID RAIN


WRONG ON CFCS


WRONG ON DDT


WRONG ON DUMPING TOXINS IN STREAMS


WRONG ON CLEAN WATER AND CLEAN AIR REGULATIONS


WRONG ON CLIMATE CHANGE
The same people that denied smoking was bad for you have now pivoted to climate change denial. So as the link between smoking and cancer is a "liberal conspricacy," so is climate change.

https://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/05...-smoking-risks
 
Old 06-15-2018, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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Anyone who takes this seriously is a nut. These guys can't even get their models to predict an accurate 3 day, who in their right minds trusts them with a 20 or more years out prediction? You'd have to be insane to trust them.
And the difference between short-term local weather fluctuations and long-term global climate patterns has been clearly explained so many times over the years, someone would have to be a complete moron to still now know the difference. So are you sure you really want to be the one to start questioning other people's ability to reason?
 
Old 06-15-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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Maybe it is weather, but the hottest period In my part of the country was the early 1950s. They keep mentioning that all the records were set then for heat.
 
Old 06-15-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: USA
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Maybe it is weather, but the hottest period In my part of the country was the early 1950s. They keep mentioning that all the records were set then for heat.
Your part of the country =/= the entire planet.
 
Old 06-15-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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https://www.theguardian.com/environm...global-warming

Wish I believed it was a hoax. Because I hate the heat..

But anyways, 3-2-1.. ARGUE..
Average global temperatures were was 10.4° F warmer than present during the previous Inter-Glacial Period.

I guess you wouldn't have survived.

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We've now had 400 months in a row of above average temperatures.
Are you suggesting Earth is only 400 months old?

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I think climate change deniers have some hard wired aversion to long term thinking.
According to the chief architect of global warming:

In his book Storms of my Grandchildren, noted climate scientist James Hansen issued the following warning: "[i]f we burn all reserves of oil, gas, and coal, there is a substantial chance we will initiate the runaway greenhouse. If we also burn the tar sands and tar shale, I believe the Venus syndrome is a dead certainty."

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...imate-science/

During the first 2 Billion years of Earth's existence, its atmosphere was CO2, Methane and Ammonia with no Oxygen, and there was no runaway greenhouse effect.

After that, over the course of the next 500 Million years as Oxygen slowly leached into the atmosphere filled with CO2 and Methane during the Great Oxygenation Event, there still was no runaway greenhouse effect.

To claim that a paltry amount of CO2 added to the atmosphere by humans which is dwarfed by the vast quantities of CO2 in the past will cause a runaway greenhouse effect is not science, but then, "global warming" was never about science, it was about coercing social and economic change.
 
Old 06-15-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/environm...global-warming

Wish I believed it was a hoax. Because I hate the heat..

But anyways, 3-2-1.. ARGUE..
Translation: give us more money.
 
Old 06-15-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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Translation: give us more money.
"Just trying to make sure your grand-kids don't grow up in a crummy world"..

Like it or not, we gotta sacrifice a bit. You tax dollars aren't gonna matter much if your wrong about this..
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