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Old 06-16-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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And yet the entire Mueller investigation is lead by Republicans. Are they deep state liberals playing a long con?
The entire Mueller Team is lead by James Comey's "Mentor". Mueller kept the very same FBI agents that worked on the Clinton Mid Year Exam and that started the RUSSIA-RUSSIA-RUSSIA fairy tale as their "Insurance Policy" to "I will STOP Trump".

YES ,,, The "deep State Liberals" - otherwise known as the Establishment Uni-Party are pretty much in charge of everything because they deeply embedded in the Swamp that rules us all.

We either get back to the Rules of Law & Order or we are done as a Republic.

 
Old 06-16-2018, 06:16 PM
 
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And yet the entire Mueller investigation is lead by Republicans. Are they deep state liberals playing a long con?
Meh. Crony government at its best. In third world countries even when there is a "peaceful transition" from one government to another after an election, the old guys work hard to destabilize the new government. This way the old guard preserve their turf and their influence.

Just never thought this was this entrenched at the federal level.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Trump is going to be impeached.
He may be impeached, but he's not going to be convicted or removed from office.

See: Bill Clinton, 1998

Sorry liberals!
 
Old 06-17-2018, 05:55 AM
 
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Comey would have to be at the top since he was the one who shot her out of the saddle.
Comey saved Hillary by not recommending an indictment in July and again two days before the election.


What shot her out of the saddle were self-hating white women, misogynist men, Fox news, the vast right wing conspiracy, Obama not campaigning hard enough, sexist media, Bernie, Jill Stein, the Russians, the electoral college, Macedonia, overconfidence, etc..
 
Old 06-17-2018, 06:09 AM
 
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And yet the entire Mueller investigation is lead by Republicans. Are they deep state liberals playing a long con?
Mueller's team revealed to have 13 registered Democrats | Daily Mail Online

https://heavy.com/news/2017/06/rober...s-russia-probe
 
Old 06-17-2018, 06:17 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You conservatives really need to get over the fact that Hillary lost. Y'all moan and groan over that more than anything.
That's because for them, attacking is more fun than defending.

They miss having a target, so now they're going after their own.
 
Old 06-17-2018, 09:16 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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One of the four FBI case agents working on the Hillary Clinton email investigation—who was also one of the two FBI agents who interviewed her at the conclusion of that investigation—triumphantly referred to Clinton as “the President” four days after that interview—and four months before the election
One of the four FBI agents strongly supported Hillary, but what about the other three?

11 days before the 2016 presidential election the FBI published a letter saying the agency reopened the Hillary Clinton email investigation. Its possible the FBI letter "might have shifted the race by 3 or 4 percentage points toward Donald Trump, swinging Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida to him, perhaps along with North Carolina and Arizona."
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-the-election/

News of the FBI reopening the Hillary Clinton investigation "dominated the headlines of major media outlets in the days leading up to the election. Stocks fell sharply and Clinton's poll numbers dropped by 3 points over subsequent days."
Comey on Clinton-Trump investigations and 2016 election - Business Insider

It can be argued that the above FBI letter caused Hillary Clinton to loose the 2016 presidential election.


What did the FBI do to hurt, disrupt or hinder Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign?

Or are you unable to answer the above question, and in reality the FBI helped Donald Trump win the election.
 
Old 06-17-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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That’s not an issue when your campaign manager is in jail and your lawyer gets a lawyer.
It is. What you state is meaningless. Political capital, in a democracy, is largely rooted in public opinion. Half of the nation sees this as a partisan witch hunt indicative of undemocratic outsized liberal institutional power, to include the prosecution of those who you mentioned (as part of the effort to get Trump).

There is no actual political capital that could buffer the social fallout. It simply won't be done, in spite of any quips about Cohen and Manafort that are both meaningless and meant to self-sooth..
 
Old 06-17-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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One of the four FBI agents strongly supported Hillary, but what about the other three?



11 days before the 2016 presidential election the FBI published a letter saying the agency reopened the Hillary Clinton email investigation. Its possible the FBI letter "might have shifted the race by 3 or 4 percentage points toward Donald Trump, swinging Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida to him, perhaps along with North Carolina and Arizona."
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-the-election/

News of the FBI reopening the Hillary Clinton investigation "dominated the headlines of major media outlets in the days leading up to the election. Stocks fell sharply and Clinton's poll numbers dropped by 3 points over subsequent days."
Comey on Clinton-Trump investigations and 2016 election - Business Insider

It can be argued that the above FBI letter caused Hillary Clinton to loose the 2016 presidential election.


What did the FBI do to hurt, disrupt or hinder Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign?


Or are you unable to answer the above question, and in reality the FBI helped Donald Trump win the election.
Lets answer that question.

The FBI in 2016 was acting much like the Keystone Cops. We need to know what was their intent. Now Comey says he can't prove intent. We are under no such restrictions or delusion. All the evidence points to a dislike and even hatred of Trump on the part of FBI and DOJ leadership. Anyone who says or thinks that not to be the case has yet to produce evidence to the contrary. Even one email in support of Trump would be helpful but it is yet to be discovered. Clearly the intent of the FBI and DOJ was not to help Trump win election.

Its undeniable that everyone in FBI and DOJ thought the Hillary was going to be elected, as did many others. After listing all the crimes committed by Hillary and rewriting the law and inserting intent into it, the intent was clear. To not hold Hillary responsible for the obvious crimes she committed. Comey made his intent clear that he was going to hold Hillary to a different standard than others who were prosecuted for similar crimes.
The FBI put its thumb on the scale to keep Hillary a candidate and free of prosecution. Comey's intent was to help Hillary but he was a bumbling fool as we see later. Comey gambled had she been elected his actions would be overlooked or even appreciated. He kept her in the race. Comey's action help cement Trump's base. There is no way they were going to vote for Hillary and allow her to continue her crime spree as President and endanger America's national security at will.

Comey was left alone unsupervised and free to roam at will to interfere in the election. A.G. Lynch was in a pickle because of her meeting with Slick Willy on the tarmac.

Not satisfied with keeping Hillary in the race, Comey's intent turned to making himself look good.
He made a promise to congress and he decided to keep it. Comey was going to prove he was the Boy Scout everyone said he was. His intent was to show he was unbiased in exonerating Hillary and protect the image of the FBI at the same time.
Hillary was way ahead in the polls and nothing could keep her out of the office she was entitled too. Comey's intention backfired when he reopened the investigation into Hillary only days before the election. Reasonable people couldn't possible vote for Hillary when she could win election and be prosecuted for crimes. Comey helped Trump get elected but that was not his intent. Once again Comey unsupervised and interfering in the election Hillary was sure to win, miscalculated. He under estimated the voters outside of his bubble. In his world nothing could keep Hillary out of office.

So a better question is. Should the FBI and the DOJ decide who will become President and why is no one from the FBI or DOJ in jail for interfering in the election ?

The FBI and DOJ did what the Russians dreamed of doing and it continues today. It all started with Hillary and her corruption to hide what she was doing on a separate system of communication. Hillary lost the election because of her own actions.

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Old 06-17-2018, 02:04 PM
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One correction....they were NOT FBI agents.

They were in the very highest positions in the FBI. And that folks, having people in those positions making comments that they would overturn the vote of the American people makes my blood run cold.

That is a serious issue. Much worse than Watergate.

YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE UNITED STATES, TALKING ABOUT OVERTURNING A FREE ELECTION IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!
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