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Because it has NOTHING to do with the question posed by Waldo Jr. He claimed (and does so) constantly that "liberals" are the root cause of every negative (to him) issue, and then when it is pointed out that republicans have a hand in doing the same things - suddenly those republicans are now liberals or he in some other way moves the goal posts.
That is what you poked your nose in and was proven wrong. Your post above has NOTHING to do with what my post addressed. Or are you going to claim now that I wasn't addressing Waldo Jr."liberals" issue?
and all you do is deny... you live on the river denial...
do you deny the FACT that the very liberal ACLU is the very one that fought (due to HIPAA) to stop from addressing the mental health issue for background checks.... because it is fact
the garbage EO that obozo did, addressed ONLY SSDI... but you deny that too, even when you are proven wrong..
your point is liberals are great, everyone else is garbage... which is 180' off of top dead center
all you saw was ...oh liberal... but you didn't see (or read) the whole post which started off as this
Dont know anymore than I was able to gather from the OPs article.
1. If the guy was mental...then he shouldn't have access to weapons....
2. the guns in question...we dont know the legality of them, or where he got them
they may be illegal....which means NOW the gun (IF, as discovered illegal) will be confiscated
or the gun may be legal, which goes back to number one, of why was a mentally ill person able to get a legal gun
you missed the entire point, and only looked at the rhetoric ….. you missed the forest through the trees
Sigh* Just another day in the " greatest nation on Earth"!
Yet ANOTHER ' murican coward that thinks he's a badass with his gun. Oh what a big man, shooting unarmed women and kids.
America- a nation of cowards that can't handle the slightest rustling of their tiny jimmies, without reaching for a gun! Yet so many brag about how badass Americans are.
has nothing to due with """ANOTHER ' murican coward that thinks he's a badass with his gun"""
has to do with mental illness in this country.... and the issue that WE (as a whole) dont address the mental health issue
YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the question more people need to be asking. Everyone is so focused on the guns, or the mental capacity of gun owners, yet I hardly ever see anyone actually question the substances being prescribed to combat these "mental disorders". These drugs are chemical cocktails which were never meant to be present in the human body. We already know there is a mile long list of side effects associated with most prescription medicines, and there is no telling just how many other possible side effects these chemicals may cause when they interact with our brains and alter our natural chemistry. I truly think it's time we start looking more closely at the actual effects of prescription medicines on the individuals who take them.
Also, have you ever noticed that most of the time, when these individuals who are already on medications commit violent crimes, the drugs they are taking are hardly ever mentioned. Almost as if some entity somewhere doesn't really want that information to become public knowledge.
CORRECT..... and these chemical cocktails issued to the mentally ill, IF administered, should be also ADMITTED to some sort of facility.... but our society has become TOO AFFRAID to commit the mentally ill that NEED to be committed
and all you do is deny... you live on the river denial...
do you deny the FACT that the very liberal ACLU is the very one that fought (due to HIPAA) to stop from addressing the mental health issue for background checks.... because it is fact
the garbage EO that obozo did, addressed ONLY SSDI... but you deny that too, even when you are proven wrong..
your point is liberals are great, everyone else is garbage... which is 180' off of top dead center
all you saw was ...oh liberal... but you didn't see (or read) the whole post which started off as this
Dont know anymore than I was able to gather from the OPs article.
1. If the guy was mental...then he shouldn't have access to weapons....
2. the guns in question...we dont know the legality of them, or where he got them
they may be illegal....which means NOW the gun (IF, as discovered illegal) will be confiscated
or the gun may be legal, which goes back to number one, of why was a mentally ill person able to get a legal gun
you missed the entire point, and only looked at the rhetoric ….. you missed the forest through the trees
So, once again your answer is to try to steer the conversation away from the point being made and the issue questioned.
Do the republicans have any part in blocking mental health restrictions to gun access or not. Your claim is that this is all on "liberals." That is the only issue, that is the only question, it is the only question that was asked from the beginning. ANSWER THE QUESTION.
You know at one time at least the right was honorable, but now so many of you lie and obfuscate at the drop of the hat.
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So, once again your answer is to deny and try to steer the conversation away from the point being made.
Do the republicans have any part in blocking mental health restrictions to gun access or not. Your claim is that this is all on "liberals." That is the only issue, that is the only question, it is the only question that was asked from the beginning. ANSWER THE QUESTION.
You know at one time at least the right was honorable, but now so many of you lie and obfuscate at the drop of the hat.
The problem here is that things are not as black and white as you think, and you confuse that with lies and obfuscation. Again, the APA once defined homosexuality as a mental disorder. Would you support denial of gun ownership (or other rights) to homosexuals?
Reform the APA first, then we can have a serious discussion about firearms background checks and mental illness.
Mental problems? Gun should have been confiscated.
I think the most likely answer to your question is that he purchased the weapon before he became symptomatic, and there are no good ways to identify those with diagnosed mental illness, much less confiscate any weapons they possess. The law relies on those who should not have weapons to surrender them voluntarily, and that just doesn't happen. Surely you understand this, OP?
I think the most likely answer to your question is that he purchased the weapon before he became symptomatic, and there are no good ways to identify those with diagnosed mental illness, much less confiscate any weapons they possess. The law relies on those who should not have weapons to surrender them voluntarily, and that just doesn't happen. Surely you understand this, OP?
Surely you believe this can change?
It does not take a lot of programming or other systems modification to change processes.
People are (in theory) all required to register their guns at purchase.
Any loopholes that exist should be closed.
That registration should and if I remember correctly does require you name, ssn, address, and I believe my drivers license number.
If someone is diagnosed, then that system should be put into motion to revoke license to own and recall the weapon.
Recall can be effected by people being ordered to turn them in AND officers sent to retrieve them.
Is it hard? Sure, but we take more care for processes that don't mean anywhere near as much. Will there be problems? Again yes, but that shouldn't stop a process from being initiated. Is it worth the trouble? IMO Yes.
Mental problems? Gun should have been confiscated.
Chalk up yet another gun-rights-hater who feels that American society would be better and/or safer if Government were given the power to decide which of us can own guns and which can't.
[*]People are (in theory) all required to register their guns at purchase.
[*]Any loopholes that exist should be closed.
[*]That registration should and if I remember correctly does require you name, ssn, address, and I believe my drivers license number.
[*]If someone is diagnosed, then that system should be put into motion to revoke license to own and recall the weapon.
And when none of these laws work, i.e. mass shootings keep happening undiminished, why, we'll just have government impose more restrictions on the law-abiding.
And then more.
That'll show 'em.
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