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Old 06-20-2018, 07:25 AM
 
Location: England
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Originally Posted by Indentured Servant View Post
If you are blamed for "Everything" that means both good and bad. However, I don't think your demographic minds being blamed for all the positive things in the world. In fact, I think your demographic fancies itself as the creator off all things good in the world. Everyone else who is not your demographic is seen as having contributed little if anything (see black people) to humanity.

I certainly don't think you all are the blame for "everything". I do believe, however, that all actions produce reactions and that the chain reaction of actions begetting reactions needs to be accounted for. However, your demographic likes to keep the reactions to its BAD ACTIONS.....off the books when doing accounting. Years of imperialism, militarism, colonization and enslavement.....HAVE CREATED ADVERSE REACTIONS. No, you are not to blame for everything, but you are the actions that manifested many negative reactions peoples are experiencing today. Who drew the borders of most Middle Eastern and African Countries....and why? Who tried to exterminate the Jews from Europe then create a homeland for them in the Middle East, so that they could escape persecution from gentile whites, only to have the reaction to that be constant conflict in the Middle East over its existence?

I think it is a straw man to say that you are blamed for "everything". That has never been the case. You are blamed for SPECIFIC things that history has recorded your role in. You don't want to accept responsibility for that so you try to discredit it by saying you are being blamed for EVERYTHING to which you vehemently deny, and rightfully so, that you are to blame for EVERYTHING. However, take responsibility for the reactions that were born of your actions.
There is blaming, and taking the blame. I don't take the blame. My demographic fancies itself as the creator of all good things in the world? Not all......... just almost.

Years of Imperialism, militarism, colonisation, and enslavement? Yes we did. Get over it. Since we stopped such things, it's great to see how continents like Africa have soared, and are now beacons to the world. That's why so many Africans are trying to get to America and Europe, to spread their glory.

Same with the Muslims wanting to leave home, and spread the ideals of the Koran. We're getting fed up of it, ya know?

The Jews created their own homeland in the Middle East. The British tried to stop them, and soldiers got murdered by Jews who later became leaders of that country. We got over it.

The biggest killers of Muslims is guess what? Yes, that's right, other Muslims.

I won't go on about how many Blacks in America kill each other. You know that already, don't you?

 
Old 06-20-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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True (no argument about that from me!) -- but, imo, the following are examples of extreme liberalism, in my opinion, in varying degrees of importance:

1. Rioting at UC Berkeley (originator of the "free speech movement in the 60's) because a speaker scheduled to appear was known for un-PC views
That has been going on at Berkeley for decades. Nothing new there.

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2. Allowing people who are here in this country illegally to have free medical care and other "freebies", and to insist that these people be called "undocumented workers" instead of any phrase with the word 'illegal' in it (and suggesting that people should learn Spanish in areas where there are many Spanish-speaking people)
There is nothing extreme about the fact that we are not going to accept people sick laying in the streets. WWJD?

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3. Allowing a California inmate convicted of murder to have sex reassignment surgery at taxpayer expense
Do you live in California? If not this doesn't affect you.

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The above are just a few examples, but there are many more -- all one has to do to discover them is to Google "extreme liberalism gone too far". Of course, I do realize that many people disagree, and that is their right.

Now, as I HOPE I have made clear, I am definitely NOT a Trump supporter, but a moderate who is just tired of what I view as political correctness run amok. (And, btw, being a moderate, I do know that extreme conservatives are just as bad -- and often much worse! -- than extreme liberals!.)
You've picked on a few minor issues that really aren't something new even for the most part. People have been complaining about Berkeley forever and not allowing people to die in the streets should NOT be considered an extreme position .

A business offers people a better wage than they can get where they live now. They get sick. You blame extreme liberalism for this?
 
Old 06-20-2018, 07:36 AM
 
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Isnt this the same rag that called straight, black men the "white people of black people" because they are privileged cowards who dont check their heterosexual, male privilege and benefit from the oppression of others? Do you agree with this as well, OP?
 
Old 06-20-2018, 07:36 AM
 
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There was a series on one of the networks on the rise and fall of Nazi Germany. As the Russians and Americans were closing in, the narrator read a quote from a German woman which went something like this, "I did not vote for Hitler. My friends did not vote for Hitler, but we will all be punished. I suppose we are all guilty."


I reject the Nazi comparison because unlike Weimar our institutions are strong. It may be less about evil than we have become a nation of under Trump.
Why are you people so damn dramatic? Trump hasn’t done anything that affects you personally. Congress and the Senate did and it’s been happening for a long time. Trump is not close to being the worst President this country has had. James Madison attacked Canada!
 
Old 06-20-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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This article is wonderful. Please, get past the provocative title, and give it a read.

https://www.theroot.com/white-people...rds-1826958780

Those in power positions are the ones who can illicit the real change this country so desperately needs.

Please, please, speak up.

“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”
Cali Doll-

Great article and thanks for posting. America was built on the backs of Black people, most of it for free. I have a question for Trump's merry band of misfits -- Who were America's first Illegal immigrants?? White folks. Get over that reality!
 
Old 06-20-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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Maybe, just maybe, we are tired of being kicked around.

My entire life, I've done nothing but be good to people, regardless of color, gender, or age. And I will continue to be. But I'm so sick and tired of being kicked around on social media, simply because I'm a straight, white, male.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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This thread was opened, closed, and opened again?

The author's complaints lack any measure of perspective on history or modern events. He also lacks a fundamental concept of what the USA is.

His racism and nationalism invalidates any modicum of a moral platform he might have had.

In short, he's mad because he hates White people while needing to admit that he can't live without them. He wants to rule and destroy who he is dependent upon (good luck). There are no affirmative action slots in positions whose performance is critical to large delicate tasks that are critical to civilization.

90% of his complaints in regard to bad circumstances (ie: underfunded schools, police interaction) are due to high black crime rates. The others are due to under-performing black students (opportunity).

The heat generated from his cognitive dissonance could power a train.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 09:40 AM
 
Location: IL
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Thread locked and then unlocked. The mods here are really something.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Thank you very much for reading it, Catgirl. It’s harsh for sure, but I think it’s an important message.

Also, thank you for speaking out when you see injustice. We’ll all be better—eventually, I’m sure—for having people like you stand up.
It is an important message, and you're welcome. I do think though, since we are being completely honest with each other, that it was a bit too harsh, simply because of its generality. It would be interesting to know how the author's white friends reacted - did they hear the message, or were they wounded by the language in which it was presented, and if it was the latter, how did any resulting conversations unfold.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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Yawn. White majority countries treat their minorities (of all kinds) better than non-white majority countries.

Seems to me it's not "white people" who have a problem running or organizing their societies in ways that bend towards justice and fair treatment for all.



Prove me wrong, or be quiet. Victim-mongers are a cancer in this society. Your victimhood is not social currency outside of your likeminded circles.
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