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Old 06-21-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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They are educated, not well educated.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:47 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I've seen conservatives on this board use Nazi reference to liberals.

It is a bit different when you see mainstream liberal news networks doing the same thing.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Well-educated practical people don't compare the Trump administration to Nazi Germany. Only the radical left does that. And when someone mentions Nazi's, they lose. Automatically.

There are some on the left that may be well-educated, but few that are very practical. If they were they would be more concerned with why their own party is swirling in the bowl and not offering any solutions to anything.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Because some people aren't so blindly devoted to their cult leader that they refuse to take the blinders off? That they will believe the slightest negative fact about their leader is fake?

Because they realize the best way to control a population is to divide it, just as Trump has been doing since launching his campaign?

Because their president literally refused to condemn people who were literally waving Nazi flags?

Because giving your people a boogeyman to hate (Jews, immigrants, brown people) and convincing them that somebody else is responsible for all of their problems is an easy way to gain their support and loyalty?

Because the president has expressed admiration for brutal strongmen such as Putin and Kim Jong Un?

Because the attacks against the media are an eerie repeat of similar tactics in the early days of Nazi Germany?

Telling parents they are taking their kids to take showers and then throwing them in camps?

Those are a few things that come to mind.
You make some good points. I recognized one of them from the book "The Anatomy of Fascism". The OP needs to know who the Sturmabteilung were.

Here is a quote from Wikipedia:
The Sturmabteilung (SA; German pronunciation: [ˈʃtʊɐ̯mʔapˌtaɪlʊŋ] ( listen)), literally Storm Detachment, functioned as the original paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party (NSDAP). It played a significant role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Its primary purposes were providing protection for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing parties, fighting against the paramilitary units of the opposing parties, especially the Red Front Fighters League (Rotfrontkämpferbund) of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and intimidating Slavs, Romanis, trade unionists, and, especially, Jews – for instance, during the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses.
The SA were also called the "Brownshirts" (Braunhemden) from the color of their uniform shirts, similar to Benito Mussolini's blackshirts. The SA developed pseudo-military titles for its members, with ranks that were later adopted by several other Nazi Party groups, chief amongst them the Schutzstaffel (SS), which originated as a branch of the SA before being separated. Brown shirts were chosen as the SA uniform because a large number of them were cheaply available after World War I, having originally been ordered during the war for colonial troops posted to Germany's former African colonies.[1]

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We should be watching for characteristics such as these in the future. America has not been a real democracy for some time. We are an oligarchy which could evolve into a Fascist state under the right conditions.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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You never really hear it in “real life,” but it’s a pretty common accusation here and on social media. Why do people genuinely feel that America will soon be no different than Nazi Germany?
Only fools will compare that! No person with any common sense can make that comparison and I'm totally offended by anyone who makes that claim.


Hitler murdered half or even more than half of my family and President Trump and America are the best things that me and my family could have wished for!

My grand parents who both died in Auswitz will be proud that we were able to get here legally and stay here with all the rights that the government gives to "immmigrants/legally immigrated people"...not illegal aliens!


My grand father, the one who died in Auswitz, arrived by boat around 1915 at Ellis Island but some family members were sick and they were deported and had to return...he died in Auswitz!


Not America's fault but Hitler and all governments that allowed the Nazi's to over take in their country and sit by and do nothing. Puls movers took all their stuff!

The Dutch Royal family fled the country and did nothing and later other Dutch royals married ex Nazi's!
Why is there not more outraged about that, but there was outrage in the streets when Queen Beatrix and her mom, before her both married ex Nazi sympathizers!
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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My grand father, the one who died in Auswitz, arrived by boat around 1915 at Ellis Island but some family members were sick and they were deported and had to return...he died in Auswitz!
Could there be a lesson on asylum seekers in there?
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Because of the striking similarities.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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This post is spot on. Trumpism is reminiscent of early Nazism, before all the atrocities. Remember how Hitler started out: he said he wanted to Make Germany Great Again.
Which is what 99% of all world leaders have done for centuries...……….
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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That's how Trump got elected.
exactly. What idiots thought Hillary was a great presidential candidate?
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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So, here's the deal: When dealing with children born of those in the penal system, decent societies aim to make the impact on the children - who have done nothing wrong (we can agree on at least that much, or can we?) - as minimal as possible.

For children who have grown up in the US and who have a support system, however tenuous, the obvious minimal-impact solution is to try to set them up with family, foster care or institutions - all of which at least provide a culture and language they're familiar with.

For a Guatemalan 4-year old who arrived with his family, these are all horrid options. Their only touchstone in a foreign country is their family. By separating them from their families, we are traumatizing them. It's cruel, and it's completely unnecessary.

Even the internment camps for US citizens of Japanese descent didn't split up families, and that was a dark enough chapter.

It surprises me that this needs to be explained.
USA today explains it in an unbiased article. Determining these childrens status and who they rightfully belong to is not what I would call a simple task which can be assessed in just a few hours...………


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ren/716016002/
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