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Old 06-20-2018, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Seattle's Ban on Plastic Straws and | Fortune

These plastic bans are very dangerous to the health and welfare of people. Plastic bans have been shown to spread disease and yet the liberals are so concerned about plastic in the ocean they feel the need to implement another ban.

I love plastic myself and can't imagine going out to eat and not having the option of plastic.

Wonder how many people will become sick because they eat with dirty utensils that aren't cleaned properly because of the high minimum wages have kitchen workers spread thin?

Dangerous plastic bag bans were responsible for deadly E-Coli outbreaks for instance.

https://www.the-american-interest.co...e-coli-deaths/

These plastic bans are very dangerous. Many people prefer a clean plastic fork that is protected by plastic over dirty utensils that likely were not cleaned properly and sit on in the open exposed to everyone who passes by germs.
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Old 06-20-2018, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Except for stirring food that is cooking and eating it when hot, I use only plastic forks and spoons and high-quality paper plates.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:05 AM
 
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Seattle's Ban on Plastic Straws and | Fortune

These plastic bans are very dangerous to the health and welfare of people. Plastic bans have been shown to spread disease and yet the liberals are so concerned about plastic in the ocean they feel the need to implement another ban.

I love plastic myself and can't imagine going out to eat and not having the option of plastic.

Wonder how many people will become sick because they eat with dirty utensils that aren't cleaned properly because of the high minimum wages have kitchen workers spread thin?

Dangerous plastic bag bans were responsible for deadly E-Coli outbreaks for instance.

https://www.the-american-interest.co...e-coli-deaths/

These plastic bans are very dangerous. Many people prefer a clean plastic fork that is protected by plastic over dirty utensils that likely were not cleaned properly and sit on in the open exposed to everyone who passes by germs.
Bring your own utensils then.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:53 AM
 
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I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I don’t believe plastic utensils or straws should be banned outright, but I do think banning plastic bags makes sense in most instances and that is a far bigger waste of plastic. I mostly shop at Asian markets and Sams Club, none of those places use plastic bags. You either bring your own bags or use left over cardboard boxes provided by the store.

I also think many fast food restaurants are very wasteful. They always give me way more napkins and extra stuff I never use. I always keep the napkins in the glove box or use them at home, but I’m sure for the majority of people, it all goes right in the trash.

Americans are very wasteful when it comes to plastic and one-time use items.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I don’t believe plastic utensils or straws should be banned outright, but I do think banning plastic bags makes sense in most instances and that is a far bigger waste of plastic. I mostly shop at Asian markets and Sams Club, none of those places use plastic bags. You either bring your own bags or use left over cardboard boxes provided by the store.

I also think many fast food restaurants are very wasteful. They always give me way more napkins and extra stuff I never use. I always keep the napkins in the glove box or use them at home, but I’m sure for the majority of people, it all goes right in the trash.

Americans are very wasteful when it comes to plastic and one-time use items.
Why not just make them available on a "by request" basis? That seems to be a logical solution. I never use the little plastic utensils that come with carry-out meals, yet I often forget to ask that I not receive them.

Same with plastic bags. We have several reusable bags for groceries, but I do want the plastic sometimes, because I actually re-use them. They are perfect for bagging pet waste and garbage that shouldn't go down the disposal.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:13 AM
 
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Why not just make them available on a "by request" basis? That seems to be a logical solution. I never use the little plastic utensils that come with carry-out meals, yet I often forget to ask that I not receive them.

Same with plastic bags. We have several reusable bags for groceries, but I do want the plastic sometimes, because I actually re-use them. They are perfect for bagging pet waste and garbage that shouldn't go down the disposal.
I don't know what they're made of exactly, but there are plenty of plastic-like compostable bags.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:18 AM
 
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Why not just make them available on a "by request" basis? That seems to be a logical solution. I never use the little plastic utensils that come with carry-out meals, yet I often forget to ask that I not receive them.

Same with plastic bags. We have several reusable bags for groceries, but I do want the plastic sometimes, because I actually re-use them. They are perfect for bagging pet waste and garbage that shouldn't go down the disposal.
That would be a good solution, but most of those employees could care less about money and waste loss, and will just throw in those utensils to save time and not have to think about it.

Everyone ends up with plastic bags somehow, I use them as trash bags. I haven’t bought trash bags maybe ever.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:19 AM
 
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I don't know what they're made of exactly, but there are plenty of plastic-like compostable bags.
And those bags that aren’t plastic should be exempt from any ban. It’s a great solution.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:32 AM
 
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Seattle's Ban on Plastic Straws and | Fortune

These plastic bans are very dangerous to the health and welfare of people. Plastic bans have been shown to spread disease and yet the liberals are so concerned about plastic in the ocean they feel the need to implement another ban.

I love plastic myself and can't imagine going out to eat and not having the option of plastic.

Wonder how many people will become sick because they eat with dirty utensils that aren't cleaned properly because of the high minimum wages have kitchen workers spread thin?

Dangerous plastic bag bans were responsible for deadly E-Coli outbreaks for instance.

https://www.the-american-interest.co...e-coli-deaths/

These plastic bans are very dangerous. Many people prefer a clean plastic fork that is protected by plastic over dirty utensils that likely were not cleaned properly and sit on in the open exposed to everyone who passes by germs.

well here are a few camping set you can take with you in your pocket, and wash as you see fit;


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009PUQLE...529566102&sr=3


https://www.amazon.com/German-Piece-...ating+utensils


https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Edge-...ating+utensils


https://www.amazon.com/TravelSource-...ating+utensils


https://www.amazon.com/JMM-Multifunc...ating+utensils


the first one i listed is my favorite
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:34 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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There are compostible/biodegradeable materials available now that could be substituted for petroleum based plastics. More and more are used for food containers....there has to be an incentive to develop more. A ban may not be perfect, but it will help turn the tide. I don't think I've taken or asked for the plastic utensils offered with take out in years. Usually keep a small metal camping set in the glovebox or work satchel.
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