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I'm not going to watch a YouTube argument to determine what he is but Obama did do a lot of damage to the party.
I say that as someone that fully supported Candidate Obama and supported Bernie.
He had the opportunity to do great things but decided Wall Street was more important. At that Obama is just a symptom of what ails the party.
Pretty much this.^^^^
I too was an Obama (2008) voter hoping for less war and more support for the little guy.
The only thing that was delivered on and saying that is being VERY generous was a fatally flawed healthcare bill that Obama lacked the fortitude to implement immediately with stronger non-participation penalties.
Cindy Sheehan and the anti-war movement that got some much play in 2008 was quietly eviscerated when they demanded accountability. Turns out they were mostly a partisan coalition not actually concerned with war but with winning an election....at least Sheehan had the principles not to drop to her knees for Bush 3.0, unlike a lot of posters here.
The recession started the last couple months of bill Clinton term. Bill purposely threw the economy into a recession and never really start to recover till the end of Obama term
"Victor Davis Hanson is an American classicist, military historian, columnist, and farmer. He has been a commentator on modern and ancient warfare and contemporary politics for National Review, The Washington Times and other media outlets. He is a professor emeritus of classics at California State University, Fresno, and is currently the Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow in classics and military history at Stanford University's Hoover Institution. "
Very interesting and hits home.
Great point, nobody elected more Republicans than Odummy.
Poor libsters, ignoring the message while beating the messenger.
Have any of you nitwits seen the latest polls the MSM is pushing for 2020? Guess who's in the lead...an old white guy by the name of Biden.
Obama was a moron and you folks are reaping the devastation of the Democratic party. He was such an egotistical self centered p***k he made no effort to groom anyone.
If you are supporting Trump, you support Socialism. Cortez wants programs to help the people. Trump wants the exact same kind of programs but that are designed to help corporations at the expense of the people.
What exactly do you consider giving away billions in tax payer dollars to corporate farmers if not Socialism? Do you honestly consider that Capitalism?
(not that you will answer)
If I am supporting socialism why aren't the socialist supporting me ? Why are they not supporting and cheering Trump on ?
You want to divide up socialism into two different camps. Why not three or four camps. Is the family farmer a corporation or a people ? Seems to me people in the farming industry are people. The cows and chickens aren't running the farm, are they ? When a storm hits an area is it socialism that comes to the rescue ? I haven't heard anyone complain that shouldn't be done b/c its socialism.
People, corporations, then there is open borders foreign populations of the entire world on our socialist teat. Is that the same as giving aid to farmers that might need it until the trade issue is worked out ?
If I am supporting socialism why aren't the socialist supporting me ? Why are they not supporting and cheering Trump on ?
They support other forms in general. One supports programs for the people and one supports programs for corporations. Both are taking money from one and giving it to someone else.
No? Taking from one to give to another is Capitalism?
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You want to divide up socialism into two different camps. Why not three or four camps. Is the family farmer a corporation or a people ? Seems to me people in the farming industry are people. The cows and chickens aren't running the farm, are they ?
People, corporations, then there is open borders foreign populations of the entire world on our socialist teat.
The programs we use to bribe other countries can indeed be looked at as a Socialist program.
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