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Old 06-25-2018, 05:57 PM
 
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Purely speculative. Prove that it's a pipe dream.
It's not speculative to assume anyone who is a Democrat or a Republican cannot be a critical thinker?
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Purely speculative. Prove that it's a pipe dream.

Prove that it's not. Name one civilized country (that your average citizen would WANT to live in) that exists purely as an anarcho capitalist nation.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:01 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Purely speculative. Prove that it's a pipe dream.
There is one more thing, you ideology won't work for the same reason communism doesn't work.
It depends on a strict adherence to the principles it's built on or it wont work. Fear, greed, ambition and a million other human attributes will tell you that.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I agree this can happen, and personally like the idea of being an Independent, but it's over generalizing to say everyone who identifies more with one party than another (or happens to belong to one) does so to a "tribalism" extreme.

The reason it seems this way is that people on both extremes are the most vocal and try to dominate the dialogue.
It's more the people who post to political forums, write letters to the editor, and call into talk radio, all while getting their news from corporate media.

But in general, identifying with a political party is intellectual laziness.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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LOL. prove that it would work. I have a friend who lived in a neighborhood that the city moved to private collection for trash. My buddy called and found he could get some bulk rates for collection if he could get enough neighbors together so the truck could make more than one stop on his block. For 6 months he tried to get his neighbors to get on board so they could get the discount. Never happened.
LOL. Prove that it wouldn't.

How many companies were competing for his or his neighbors' business?
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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See, your argument fails simply because you think your beliefs infallible. I do not believe the same things you do, not because I am uneducated, but because I believe in a different way. Your belief system is a belief system. Don't impose it on me.

I don't consider myself a Democrat so much as that's how I typically vote. I tend to fall a bit further to the left, personally.
I don't impose anything. Neither I nor anyone else is forcing you at gunpoint to embrace libertarianism.

However, both Republicans and Democrats force me via gunpoint to abide laws that violate my natural rights. (No, simply leaving the country isn't an option, and besides, I shouldn't have to.)
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It's not speculative to assume anyone who is a Democrat or a Republican cannot be a critical thinker?
It is, because tribalism is a reflection of a lack of critical thinking skills. Hence religious wars and gang affiliations.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Prove that it's not. Name one civilized country (that your average citizen would WANT to live in) that exists purely as an anarcho capitalist nation.
This is the logical fallacy that people have when it comes to anarchy; anarcho-capitalism is antithetical to being a country, as it is a collection of self-governing individuals entering into voluntary agreements with others. It is based strictly on property rights.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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There is one more thing, you ideology won't work for the same reason communism doesn't work.
It depends on a strict adherence to the principles it's built on or it wont work. Fear, greed, ambition and a million other human attributes will tell you that.
Purely speculative, once again.

Did you rob, rape, steal, assault, murder, or trespass today, or otherwise violate the rights of someone else?

No? Then you lived a day of anarchy.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:18 PM
 
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I've always been a critical thinker. You can't grow up to be a black right wing Republican without examining, questioning, and defying almost everything you've been told your whole life by the people around you.

I'm probably one of the few African-Americans that can say I've never identified or voted Democrat.
When I was coming of age to vote, I did my research on what each political party believed and Republicans matched my beliefs about business, freedom, and government to the tee. Right wing conservatism aligned perfectly with my religion. So I voted accordingly.

There was never a thought that I should seek out the council or second opinions from anyone else. I just relied on my own thoughts and approval. So you OP are very misconstrued. Nothing tribal about my journey. It's just the way it is.
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