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Old 06-26-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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America is a nation of sheep that think they’ll be wolves someday. So the sheep vote for policies favorable to the wolves. When the sheep can’t figure out why they keep getting eaten, the wolves tell them that it’s someone else’s fault.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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No, I read it, but just as the OP, make accusations/assumptions and don't post a link....what, don't like it?
I'm not sure I understand your comment. ^^^^

You agree that the tax cuts will increase the deficit, but you don't want to post that information?
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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I'm not sure I understand your comment. ^^^^

You agree that the tax cuts will increase the deficit, but you don't want to post that information?

I understand that currently they are running about 50million more, and the forecast (forecast) says they are supposed to go higher, lets wait and see, shall we?
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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I understand that currently they are running about 50million more, and the forecast (forecast) says they are supposed to go higher, lets wait and see, shall we?
What choice do we have at this point?
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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So you agree all the information is correct, you just don't like the source, is that what you are saying or do you have any info to refute the facts?
I do have plenty to refute those non-facts. So could you if you simply read a little and think.


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The total cost is around $2 billion

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...or-themselves/

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When the Congressional Budget Office released its updated budget forecast, everyone focused on the deficit number. But buried in the report was the CBO's tacit admission that it vastly overestimated the cost of the Trump tax cuts, because it didn't account for the strong economic growth they would generate.
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In any case, the CBO now expects GDP to be $6.1 trillion bigger by 2027 than it did before the tax cuts.

The CBO report also makes clear that this faster-growing economy will offset most of the costs of the Trump tax cuts.

In a table buried in the appendix of the CBO report, it shows that, before accounting for economic growth, the tax cuts Trump signed into law late last year would cut federal revenues by $1.69 trillion from 2018-2027.

But it goes on to say that higher rate of GDP growth will produce $1.1 trillion in new revenues. In other words, 65% of the tax cuts are paid for by extra economic growth.

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The $4k average pay raise did not pan out, wages have gone done instead.
According to official data wage growth has been around 4.5% so far this year and inflation has been around 2.5%

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wage-growth

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-.../inflation-cpi

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Corporations are not putting that money back into the economy, they are doing stock buybacks and paying dividends instead.
Companies are actually mostly sitting on it. The biggest choices are to pay debt, fund growth, pay shareholders, pay employees or hold cash. Some companies are doing a little of all, some are doing a lot of one. If you look at these charts then you might get a better feel.

1 other thing I would mention is that paying dividends and stock buybacks help anyone invested in those companies, which millions of people do with 401Ks, IRAs and Pension systems. Also, a lot of that money is actually coming from offshore funds being repatriated and not the tax cut.

https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/art...ings-are-going


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/he...-it-2018-05-30

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the GOP claimed it would stop job outsourcing but the opposite happened.
Companies move here, they move there for all sorts of reasons. Pointing out some rando company and going ahaaaa! isn't particularly useful. One thing I can point to is the that the US unemployment rate is at 3.8% and thats the lowest its been in 50 years. Kind of hard to say there is a big outsourcing of jobs when we are at near record low unemployment rates.

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the richest 1% will get 83% of the tax cuts.
pure hyperbole.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Most knowledgeable people knew this would happen. More trickle down complements of the Republicans. The party of big money and big business. Don’t have either of those? then we’ll include hate.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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America is a nation of sheep that think they’ll be wolves someday. So the sheep vote for policies favorable to the wolves. When the sheep can’t figure out why they keep getting eaten, the wolves tell them that it’s someone else’s fault.
That is a great analogy.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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I knew that this was bad for America and the economy, the American people are being lied to and stolen from.

The total cost is around $2 billion

The $4k average pay raise did not pan out, wages have gone done instead.

Corporations are not putting that money back into the economy, they are doing stock buybacks and paying dividends instead.

the GOP claimed it would stop job outsourcing but the opposite happened.

the richest 1% will get 83% of the tax cuts.

Now they are looking to make cuts in other necessary programs such as Medicare and Social Security and Food Stamps to pay for it.


Thank you...for reading my thoughts and opinions and commentary as the OP.




http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3...-an-utter-flop
Which was the plan all along.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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Crumbs.....Nancy is that you?
Nancy Reagan is dead.
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