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Old 06-26-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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It makes no sense to me why this has blown up to be such a big deal. When the adults commit crimes and are arrested then the children are separated while the adults are dealt with, this is consistent with the commission of any crime with children present. These are criminals (crossing the border illegally is a criminal act). These adults knowingly commit a crime what do you expect will happen to the children?

If an adult robs a bank and has a child with them what do you think happens to the child? They are taken and sent some place else away from that parent.

I just don't understand all the liberal weeping going on. Can anyone understand this madness by the Democrats/Liberals? As for these adults - they deliberately place the life of the child in extreme danger by crossing the border, an insanely dangerous thing to do which could result in death, especially with a child, then once they are on this side of the border start crying about how the immigration agents are mistreating them and their children.. is this for real? I find this laughable.

And nutcase Pelosi is busy crying with them...

 
Old 06-26-2018, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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It makes no sense to me why this has blown up to be such a big deal. When the adults commit crimes and are arrested then the children are separated while the adults are dealt with. These are criminals (crossing the border illegally is a criminal act). These adults knowingly commit a crime what do you expect will happen to the children?

If an adult robs a bank and has a child with them what do you think happens to the child? They are taken and sent some place else away from that parent.

I just don't understand all the liberal weeping going on. Can anyone understand this madness by the Democrats/Liberals?
We’re not talking about robbing a bank or killing someone. Yes, thier parents broke the law but that doesn’t mean you should punish the child, keep the family together until they are all deported.

Or are the republicans so cold hearted that they don’t really give a damn? Because that’s what the rest of is sees regardless of party affiliation or religion.
 
Old 06-26-2018, 05:37 PM
 
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Because its a minor violation. In fact the exact same level of crime is "impersonating smokey the bear". Should we take someones kids for that too?
 
Old 06-26-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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It happened under Obama as well. But the Democrat left and their sycophantic supporters in the media took this opportunity to promote an entire propaganda campaign around this, complete with misleading fake pictures and recordings that were focused on crying children.

Their priorities here are 1) Get Trump and 2) promote a globalist "open borders" agenda. The kids are just a prop and not one thing more to them.

This propaganda campaign has been cynical and manipulative to the absolute maximum, and would have no doubt made Joseph Goebbels tear-up at the sight of his progeny demonstrating such an absolute mastery of the methods that he so ably pioneered during the first half of the 20th century in Nazi Germany (Nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers Party), had he been here to see it.

Will the Democrat left media be coming along next with a similar campaign to stop immigrants overrunning our borders by the millions, coyotes transporting these illegals in in extremely dangerous and reckless fashion, frequently leading to the death of these people, and of course emphasizing the drugs and violence that is being imported along with this scourge? Not a chance.

In fact, the Democrat left is actually cheering this along, because "open borders" is at the heart of their long-term political electoral strategy. Middle American workers and families, be damned.

Oh, and Get Trump, by ANY means necessary.

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Old 06-26-2018, 05:44 PM
 
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It happened under Obama as well. But the Democrat left and their sycophantic supporters in the media took this opportunity to promote an entire propaganda campaign around this, complete with misleading fake pictures and recordings that were focused on crying children. Their priorities here are 1) Get Trump and 2) promote a globalist "open borders" agenda.

The kids are just a prop and not one thing more to them.

This propaganda campaign has been cynical and manipulative to the absolute maximum, and would have no doubt made Joseph Goebbels tear-up at the sight of his progeny demonstrating such an absolute mastery of the methods that he so ably pioneered during the first half of the 20th century in Nazi Germany (Nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers Party), had he been here to see it.

Will the Democrat left media be coming along next with a similar campaign to stop immigrants overrunning our borders by the millions, coyotes transporting these illegals in in extremely dangerous and reckless fashion, frequently leading to the death of these people, and of course emphasizing the drugs and violence that is being imported along with this scourge? Not a chance.

In fact, the Democrat left is actually cheering this along, because "open borders" is at the heart of their long-term political electoral strategy. Middle American workers and families, be damned.
I suppose Trump's aggressive immigration policies is why we are getting more coverage of it now.
 
Old 06-26-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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I suppose Trump's aggressive immigration policies is why we are getting more coverage of it now.
Also, because they did not care about it when it happened under Obama.

Again, the priorities here are 1) Get Trump and 2) promote a globalist "open borders" agenda. The kids are just a prop in their propaganda production.
 
Old 06-26-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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No. It did NOT "happen under Obama as well" This is nonsense. Its a intentional misdirection. It happened under Obama very rarely. The majority of the time it occurred was when a minor came completely alone-thus already separated from their family, or when other additional crimes occurred.
Im sick of this idiotic claim.
 
Old 06-26-2018, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Because its a minor violation. In fact the exact same level of crime is "impersonating smokey the bear". Should we take someones kids for that too?
By that logic, so is DUI.
 
Old 06-26-2018, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The violation is basically at the level of a ticket for jaywalking where the adult is issued a citation to show up before the immigration court.

If you were issued a such a citation and your children were with you do you think the police should take your children and put them in custody?

It is my opinion that the administration is attempting to avoid the time frame that requires that status be adjudicated within a specific time frame when children are involved.
 
Old 06-26-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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It makes no sense to me why this has blown up to be such a big deal. When the adults commit crimes and are arrested then the children are separated while the adults are dealt with, this is consistent with the commission of any crime with children present. These are criminals (crossing the border illegally is a criminal act). These adults knowingly commit a crime what do you expect will happen to the children?

If an adult robs a bank and has a child with them what do you think happens to the child? They are taken and sent some place else away from that parent.

I just don't understand all the liberal weeping going on. Can anyone understand this madness by the Democrats/Liberals? As for these adults - they deliberately place the life of the child in extreme danger by crossing the border, an insanely dangerous thing to do which could result in death, especially with a child, then once they are on this side of the border start crying about how the immigration agents are mistreating them and their children.. is this for real? I find this laughable.

And nutcase Pelosi is busy crying with them...
We don't put kids in jail because their parents are accused of a crime.

How would you feel if your child was taken away from you?

How would you feel if you were a child and you were separated from your mother?

Quite frankly I don't understand how anyone doesn't get it. Certainly not anyone who believes in God or Jesus or anyone who isn't a decent human being. I have friends who don't believe in God that have much more compassion than Mike Pence.
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