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Old 06-28-2018, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You dodged.
You poked and can't take a poke in return.
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Be an adult and use your brain.
You mean something like, "Shouldn't Democrats insist that Obama's recovery was a failure?"

That was brainy.
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If democrats believe that growing inequality causes recessions and Obama's recovery factually saw growing inequality in income, wealth, and benefits...then how can Obama's recovery be successful as it is just setting us up for the next collapse.

By running away from the topic of the thread you are tacitly admitting that you can't hold both positions and I am correct.
All you have to do to defend your assertion is to show what Obama policies aggravated income inequality. Sure, it grew. Mostly as a result of Pub policies. After all, the great bulk of domestic policy comes from congress. In Obama's term, that was a Pub congress.

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P.S. Can you show me some links where "trumplings" say "Obama brought on Dubya's Great Recession?"
If I wanted to go to the trouble of proving the obvious to you, but I don't.

And you've read it on these boards the same as I have over the past few years.

As soon as Obama took office, you boys were chanting. "It's HIS economy now!"

Carry on.

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Old 06-28-2018, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I think Obama had to do something and some of it was good and some not so much, who can forget "cash for clunkers" or those "shovel ready jobs" ? Sure there was a trickle down affect from those programs but for the money spent I think he could have got more bang for the buck.



I lean to the Right and I wasn't a fan of Obama's but I think he did the best he could. He had some misses but he started us back on the path to a slow recovery and that is hardly a failure.
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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I think Obama had to do something and some of it was good and some not so much, who can forget "cash for clunkers" or those "shovel ready jobs" ? Sure there was a trickle down affect from those programs but for the money spent I think he could have got more bang for the buck.



I lean to the Right and I wasn't a fan of Obama's but I think he did the best he could. He had some misses but he started us back on the path to a slow recovery and that is hardly a failure.
Liberal economic policies by design do not get the most bang for the buck.
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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So if you think Obama did reasonably well with the economic recovery, you must disagree with the leftist argument that growing inequality causes recessions?
I think there are a number of factors that contribute to a recession, but certain growing inequality is one of them (of course growing inequality combined with other factors that might outweigh the effects of inequality may not lead to a recession, and so on..). Recessions are not as simple as 1+1=2... even the mood of the general public can affect the economy.
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:36 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I think Obama had to do something and some of it was good and some not so much, who can forget "cash for clunkers" or those "shovel ready jobs" ? Sure there was a trickle down affect from those programs but for the money spent I think he could have got more bang for the buck.



I lean to the Right and I wasn't a fan of Obama's but I think he did the best he could. He had some misses but he started us back on the path to a slow recovery and that is hardly a failure.
Yes. And the proof is in the pudding. When Obama took office the economy was in freefall. Eight years later it had recovered nicely. Yet the Trumpies claim that Obama was a failure. This is not only intellectually dishonest it's idiotic.

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Old 06-28-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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Yes. And the proof is in the pudding. When Obama took office the economy--thanks to Bush--was in freefall. Eight years later it had recovered nicely. Yet the Trumpies claim that Obama was a failure. This is not only intellectually dishonest it's idiotic.
I am not a Trumpie. Obama was a failure at who he promised us he would be. Income inequality grew under Obama. That is not who he was supposed to be.

If you were top 10% you did great under Obama. Of course, that is now who Obama is so.............
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I am not a Trumpie. Obama was a failure at who he promised us he would be. Income inequality grew under Obama. That is not who he was supposed to be.

If you were top 10% you did great under Obama. Of course, that is now who Obama is so.............
I don't care if Obama said he was the Second Coming. The economy collapsed under Bush II and recovered under Obama. To say that's a failure is idiotic.
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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I don't care if Obama said he was the Second Coming. The economy collapsed under Bush II and recovered under Obama. To say that's a failure is idiotic.
No it isn't. It was done completely wrong. It was done to see that Wall Street did well and little else. Obama had all that Goldman Sachs campaign money he had to make good on.
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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No it isn't. It was done completely wrong. It was done to see that Wall Street did well and little else. Obama had all that Goldman Sachs campaign money he had to make good on.
And what would you have done to reverse the worst economic collapse since the great depression? Nationalize the banks?
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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So Obama walks into a red hot recession, handed to him by Bush and Trump supporters want to blame Obama? Trump walks into an unemployment rate of 4% and Trump supporters want to credit Trump? Trump supporters that claim to be pro American called GM Government Motors because Obama helped them! They cheered at the demise of an American car manufacturer!!! I absolutely cannot stand Trump supporters.
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