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Old 06-29-2018, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Maybe NYC should figure out their pension problem before they offer up more freebies and benefits .


In other words, the city has been spending more to meet its pension obligations than to build and renovate bridges, parks, schools, and other public assets," they write. "New Yorkers have forgone billions of dollars a year in services, infrastructure improvements, and potential tax savings to back up the state's constitutional guarantee of generous pensions for city employees."

New York's five pension funds are a combined $64.8 billion in debt, according to the city's official numbers, which assumes that the funds will earn annual investment returns of at least 7 percent in perpetuity. Using a more realistic expectations for future investment return (3.61 percent), the Manhattan Institute report calculates that the city's long-term pension debt exceeds $142 billion.

New York City's Slowly Sinking Pensions Are Taking on More Water - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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https://ocasio2018.com/

The 2018 Democratic platform makes no sense. They don't want immigration and customers enforcement which is inviting every family from the third-world to come here and then they want Medicare and Housing as a human right.

They only have dreams and wishes that are not possible. In a desperate attempt to counter President Trump and his incredible success they are promising a socialist paradise of unicorns and rainbows but they don't disclose how they will pay for it.

She basically wants no immigration and customers enforcement so that people from third-world countries can just come to America as if it was like moving from state to state.

Wonder how her dream of inviting the third-world over to America for free Medicare and housing as a human right is going to work

I agree that they should enchance the health-care safety-net but rather than Medicare for all, they should just have continue Medicare like it is and have a per-capita Medicaid block grant sent straight to the states so they can tailor health care as they see fit.

A Medicaid block-grant would ensure first-class health care for people in states like Republican North Dakota, Iowa, Minnesota and a failing one in collapsing, corrupt, big-spending, unionized health-care states like California and New York.

If the Democrats were to be taken seriously they would be for deporting all the illegal aliens and spending the savings on expanding Medicare and housing subsidies.

Instead, the platform is opening borders with no ICE which means that massive amounts of people would be flocking in for housing for all the world and medicare for all the world.
It seems you misunderstand what abolishing ICE means. It does not mean getting rid of immigration enforcement, it means moving it away from DHS to another bureau, like it used to be before "W".
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Maybe NYC should figure out their pension problem before they offer up more freebies and benefits .


In other words, the city has been spending more to meet its pension obligations than to build and renovate bridges, parks, schools, and other public assets," they write. "New Yorkers have forgone billions of dollars a year in services, infrastructure improvements, and potential tax savings to back up the state's constitutional guarantee of generous pensions for city employees."

New York's five pension funds are a combined $64.8 billion in debt, according to the city's official numbers, which assumes that the funds will earn annual investment returns of at least 7 percent in perpetuity. Using a more realistic expectations for future investment return (3.61 percent), the Manhattan Institute report calculates that the city's long-term pension debt exceeds $142 billion.

New York City's Slowly Sinking Pensions Are Taking on More Water - Hit & Run : Reason.com
Knock it off with fiscal reality.

Everyone is getting free stuff.

Just vote Dem!!!
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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As a Native New Yorker, now living in PA, good for her. We lived in Queens for 15 years. She represents her area, and The Bronx, as a Progressive Dem, Female, and Latina.

Too bad if you people around the country don't like her. If she wins the general, most likely against any Republican in NYC, it will add another voice against your agenda.

FYI, I am voting straight Dem in PA. Shove it.
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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As a Native New Yorker, now living in PA, good for her. We lived in Queens for 15 years. She represents her area, and The Bronx, as a Progressive Dem, Female, and Latina.

Too bad if you people around the country don't like her. If she wins the general, most likely against any Republican in NYC, it will add another voice against your agenda.

FYI, I am voting straight Dem in PA. Shove it.
You'll vote yourself right into a third world country because you can.

Ask yourself why you moved out of N.Y.

Then ask yourself why you'll vote for the same policies in PA that caused you to leave N.Y.

Let's work on some critical thinking skills today.
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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As a Native New Yorker, now living in PA, good for her. We lived in Queens for 15 years. She represents her area, and The Bronx, as a Progressive Dem, Female, and Latina.

Too bad if you people around the country don't like her. If she wins the general, most likely against any Republican in NYC, it will add another voice against your agenda.

FYI, I am voting straight Dem in PA. Shove it.
How is abolishing ICE progressive ? I thought that progressives were against child molestors, rapists and domestic violence .
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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You'll vote yourself right into a third world country because you can.

Ask yourself why you moved out of N.Y.

Then ask yourself why you'll vote for the same policies in PA that caused you to leave N.Y.

Let's work on some critical thinking skills today.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing . If Queens/NYC was so awesome and “progressive” why move ?
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How is abolishing ICE progressive ? I thought that progressives were against child molestors, rapists and domestic violence .
Dissolving ICE and moving their duties to another bureau is neither progressive, nor conservative. It is one of those things either party could support.
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Dissolving ICE and moving their duties to another bureau is neither progressive, nor conservative. It is one of those things either party could support.
Why move their duties to another bureau ? I haven’t heard a legit reason to do this .

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it . We know that the left wants to abolish ICE because they want zero enforcement for illegal aliens even the ones that have committed terrible crimes
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why move their duties to another bureau ? I haven’t heard a legit reason to do this
ICE wants it, and wrote a letter to Nielsen requesting it. As you probably know, ICE used to be INS, until Bush abolished it. Now they operate under DHS and are asked to do things which have little to do with immigration enforcement. Eliminating ICE and handing the duties back to INS would allow them to focus on immigration, while other agencies focus on other things.
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