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News flash for the closed minded liberals. The vast majority of conservatives and Republicans don't want Roe V. Wade overturned nor do they want gay marriage overturned. The vast majority of Conservatives are not Evangelicals. Wake up.
I actually know that. That's why I'm looking forward to the overturning of Roe V. Wade and restrictions against gays in red states.
"A recent poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation found that 67 percent of Americans say they don't want the Supreme Court to overturn the landmark 1973 decision, while 29 percent said they do."
Those evangelicals have been defending Trump cheating on his pregnant wife, three marriages, porn stars, lies, corruption, they forgave it all in the name of "pragmatism" because of abortion. I figure this is a loss for Trump either way. Either he figuratively punches the evangelicals in the face or he angers 67% of the country by turning red states into theocracies. Either way, Democrats should no longer have to discuss abortion with Republicans. With Republicans controlling all aspects of American government, if they don't do it now, that's on them.
I actually know that. That's why I'm looking forward to the overturning of Roe V. Wade and restrictions against gays in red states.
"A recent poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation found that 67 percent of Americans say they don't want the Supreme Court to overturn the landmark 1973 decision, while 29 percent said they do."
Those evangelicals have been defending Trump cheating on his pregnant wife, three marriages, porn stars, lies, corruption, they forgave it all in the name of "pragmatism" because of abortion. I figure this is a loss for Trump either way. Either he figuratively punches the evangelicals in the face or he angers 67% of the country by turning red states into theocracies. Either way, Democrats should no longer have to discuss abortion with Republicans. With Republicans controlling all aspects of American government, if they don't do it now, that's on them.
They won't do it now nor in the future because the vast majority of Republicans including those in Congress don't give a hoot about promoting Evangelical values except for maybe a handful of extreme right wingers. There are enough Republicans in the Senate that would vote with Democrats if he announces someone that is openly for overturning previous SC decisions on this matter or has a history of voting in that direction.
They won't do it now nor in the future because the vast majority of Republicans including those in Congress don't give a hoot about promoting Evangelical values except for maybe a handful of extreme right wingers. There are enough Republicans in the Senate that would vote with Democrats if he announces someone that is openly for overturning previous SC decisions on this matter or has a history of voting in that direction.
Trump needs the evangelicals. He threaded the needle to get elected and everyone knows it. What's he going to tell them in 2020? Sorry, better luck next time? He needs them desperately. I am still counting on his pick overturning Roe V. Wade. I think Republicans have pulled the football too many times to fool the evangelical Charlie Browns anymore. The will go nuts if they don't get abortion overturned this time. Maybe he's saying this now so he can claim innocence when it's overturned. Trump PROMISED evangelicals on this.
This was Trump's big promise to evangelicals. Evangelicals have been turning themselves into knots defending Trump because he said he would end abortion.
I know ending abortion would be a disaster for the Republican party so honestly, I want to see Trump do it. Maybe Republicans realized this wasn't what they really wanted, all those poverty moms forced to give birth and live off of state welfare.
What do evangelicals say now? If Republicans don't deliver on abortion after they have control of every aspect of American government, how do they use abortion as cudgel in the future?
Trump has a vested interest in keeping abortion legal, he doesn't want any half Russian kids of his being born here.
Trump has a vested interest in keeping abortion legal, he doesn't want any half Russian kids of his being born here.
I feel pretty certain Trump's paid for a few. Weren't there stories that he was angry when Marla got pregnant and wouldn't get an abortion so he felt he had to marry her? And didn't Stormy say he didn't use condoms? Not that it matters, Trump supporters ignore Trump's actions and history.
Trump needs the evangelicals. He threaded the needle to get elected and everyone knows it. What's he going to tell them in 2020? Sorry, better luck next time? He needs them desperately. I am still counting on his pick overturning Roe V. Wade. I think Republicans have pulled the football too many times to fool the evangelical Charlie Browns anymore. The will go nuts if they don't get abortion overturned this time. Maybe he's saying this now so he can claim innocence when it's overturned. Trump PROMISED evangelicals on this.
You can conjecture all you want to, you're free to do so of course. I will respectfully disagree. We'll see who's right shortly.
You seem to be very confused starting with the title of your thread. Evangelicals don't run the country. They have less and less influence every year. They don't make up the majority of Christians in this country, not even close. They currently don't have a single member on the Supreme Court. I don't know what Trump promised them and I don't care. Evangelicals can pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
You'll see soon enough who Trump chooses.
Evangelicals are the bread and butter of the Republican base. Without them they don't have a chance of winning.
Trump needs the evangelicals. He threaded the needle to get elected and everyone knows it. What's he going to tell them in 2020? Sorry, better luck next time? He needs them desperately. I am still counting on his pick overturning Roe V. Wade. I think Republicans have pulled the football too many times to fool the evangelical Charlie Browns anymore. The will go nuts if they don't get abortion overturned this time. Maybe he's saying this now so he can claim innocence when it's overturned. Trump PROMISED evangelicals on this.
Maybe the word is getting out that Trump paid for an abortion a couple of years ago?
Or would that make any difference to the evangelical (who aren't Christians anyway)?
He is saying he won't choose based on that promise which is very different that what Trump said in every interview and every rally. Want to hear what Trump supporters said last night? These guys are living for the overturn of Roe V. Wade and are still furious about gay marriage, calling it "God-mocking". And these evangelicals are Trump's most vocal base.
Vindicated: This is Exactly Why Christians Overwhelmingly Supported Trump
"And with the announcement of Anthony Kennedy’s departure, that feeling of vindication may soon transition into one of triumph. Neil Gorsuch replacing Scalia was a move that merely maintained the judicial status quo – no doubt a culture-saving move, but not one that advanced the ball down the field on critical cultural and constitutional issues.
With Justice Kennedy, it’s different. Kennedy was the author of the God-mocking Obergefell decision. He was the justice who preserved the practice of child sacrifice by authoring the intellectually stunted, relativistic tripe in the infamous Planned Parenthood v Casey decision. His seat could tip a 4-4-1 divided Court into a 5-4 majority for Constitutional originalists."
That's a long winded way of saying "Yes, I lied.". You're needy & wanted people to look at your thread. You could have just said "Evangelicals, Trump seems to be backing off of his hard core support for overturning R v W" and that wouldn't have been a lie. WHAT YOU POSTED IS A LIE.
News flash for the closed minded liberals. The vast majority of conservatives and Republicans don't want Roe V. Wade overturned nor do they want gay marriage overturned. The vast majority of Conservatives are not Evangelicals. Wake up.
News flash. If the vast majority of you do not want that, your representatives are not acting in your interests. Because I can almost guarantee you that Roe vs wade is going away, and gay marriage is at significant risk.
And the liberals are going to go to absolute war politically. They're going to vote like they never have in the past. This is a red line for a LOT of folks. Just like conservatives have a lot of red lines that the left should not have pushed, so do liberals. And here we go.
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