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Old 07-03-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Alternative plan; have your drink once you arrive at your destination from an actual glass or mug. The rest of the world can somehow manage to travel from place to place without the need to top up with a beverage. The more I think about it, the more weird it seems. Why is it that Americans can't drive anywhere without a beverage in a cup holder next to them? Doesn't anyone ever sit down and have an actual coffee break or lunch anymore?
Or, Nathan water bottle with its beautiful and convenient nipple--problem solved.
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Old 07-03-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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Drink right from the cup or glass. What a concept.
I agree! What are they, two? But I have to admit it is nice to have a lid on a to go cup. They could modify it so it's like the coffee cup lids. Bunch of adults drinking out of sippy cups.
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Old 07-03-2018, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Drink right from the cup or glass. What a concept.
Plastic lid keeps the cup from collapsing, no mention spillage. Straw is secondary. I suppose they can redesign the lid to function as a straw too.
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Old 07-16-2018, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Well I don’t use straws but why not switch to paper. Only kids need straws since some drinks are too heavy for them to pick up.

1. Spoken by someone who's obviously never had a milkshake.

2. People with certain disabilities also have difficulty lifting drinks.

3. What eating/drinking utensils I choose to use is not dependent upon what you think I need.
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Old 07-27-2018, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Default The misguided plastic straw hysteria

As in many government bans, this one is beyond silly. Maybe that's why some people support straw bans. It follows the old rule "tell a lie big enough and often enough and people will believe it".

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We could collect all of the straws in North America, bundle them together and shoot them into the Sun, and the state of the ocean would hardly be improved at all. Indeed, we could stop using plastic altogether and it would barely make a dent in the problem. Does that mean we should be totally unconcerned about our own waste? No, but it does mean that our waste is, comparatively, not a significant problem. The ocean is being destroyed by Asia and Africa. Until they get their acts together, only minimal progress can be made.

And, as far as straws go, it's a near total non-issue. The United States accounts for a tiny fraction of the plastic in the ocean and straws account for a tiny fraction of that tiny fraction. Go ahead and refrain from straws if you wish. More power to you. But you are accomplishing very little for the environment. That's just the reality, in case anyone cares about reality anymore.

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Old 07-27-2018, 10:30 AM
 
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It is a little silly but I can't get too excited about it. I was recently at a restaurant that only used paper straws, and they weren't like the straws of our youth where you take one sip and collapse the whole straw. These straws were sturdy and made of a thick paper product and lasted the whole meal. But give it a couple years and libs will be flipping out over the trees needed to make the straws.

You know it's going to happen...there is always a downside to their solutions. Remember when plastic grocery bags were pushed to "save the trees". Ever seen some of those trees covered with plastic shopping bags?
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Old 07-27-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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As in many government bans, this one is beyond silly. Maybe that's why some people support straw bans. It follows the old rule "tell a lie big enough and often enough and people will believe it".

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We could collect all of the straws in North America, bundle them together and shoot them into the Sun, and the state of the ocean would hardly be improved at all. Indeed, we could stop using plastic altogether and it would barely make a dent in the problem. Does that mean we should be totally unconcerned about our own waste? No, but it does mean that our waste is, comparatively, not a significant problem. The ocean is being destroyed by Asia and Africa. Until they get their acts together, only minimal progress can be made.

And, as far as straws go, it's a near total non-issue. The United States accounts for a tiny fraction of the plastic in the ocean and straws account for a tiny fraction of that tiny fraction. Go ahead and refrain from straws if you wish. More power to you. But you are accomplishing very little for the environment. That's just the reality, in case anyone cares about reality anymore.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33611...aign=position1

Why should we even contribute a "tiny fraction" to a growing problem ? Maybe straws are a good first step in the right direction. You wouldn't be opposed to us actually doing something to improve the health of our little planet, would you ? God knows, we have poisoned it for way too long as it is.
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Old 07-27-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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As in many government bans, this one is beyond silly. Maybe that's why some people support straw bans. It follows the old rule "tell a lie big enough and often enough and people will believe it".

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We could collect all of the straws in North America, bundle them together and shoot them into the Sun, and the state of the ocean would hardly be improved at all. Indeed, we could stop using plastic altogether and it would barely make a dent in the problem. Does that mean we should be totally unconcerned about our own waste? No, but it does mean that our waste is, comparatively, not a significant problem. The ocean is being destroyed by Asia and Africa. Until they get their acts together, only minimal progress can be made.

And, as far as straws go, it's a near total non-issue. The United States accounts for a tiny fraction of the plastic in the ocean and straws account for a tiny fraction of that tiny fraction. Go ahead and refrain from straws if you wish. More power to you. But you are accomplishing very little for the environment. That's just the reality, in case anyone cares about reality anymore.

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We do more than other countries. That's part of why we're proud to be Americans.
A positive minor effect is better than a negative effect.
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Old 07-27-2018, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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The 500 million statistic is suspect. But it is likely the right order of magnitude...so the exact number has little import.
I would think still useful as would be the throttling of the use of plastic bags. Walk around the desert here and the darn thing litter the landscape. And they last a long time.
So some consideration of how to get rid of stuff would seem reasonable.
And straws are probably as good a place as any to start.
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Old 07-27-2018, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Why should we even contribute a "tiny fraction" to a growing problem ? Maybe straws are a good first step in the right direction.

Maybe, but that doesn't mean "there oughta be a law". If enough people think the way you do, switching to paper straws will be a good selling point for a restaurant, especially in a liberal area. Trouble is, not everyone will think that way, so you have to make laws to force them to live that way. At least one city is even threatening jail time for violators.


Instead of saying "I think straws are bad so I'll stop using them" the leftist says "I think straws are bad so you're not allowed to use them any more and we'll throw you in jail if you do".


At least it's being done mostly at the local level though. I just hope if the dems retake congress this fall that they don't try to go nation wide with it.
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