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Old 07-27-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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I never use straws because I like the feel of cold ice pressed against my lips and the drink tastes much colder!
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Hilarious Straw Ban Memes Hit on the Dark Truth That All Laws Require Force - Hit & Run : Reason.com

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Those don't just make me laugh out loud. They hint at a darker truth about straw bans, a fact these policies' proponents prefer to ignore: All laws ultimately rest on state violence.
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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It is a little silly but I can't get too excited about it. I was recently at a restaurant that only used paper straws, and they weren't like the straws of our youth where you take one sip and collapse the whole straw. These straws were sturdy and made of a thick paper product and lasted the whole meal. But give it a couple years and libs will be flipping out over the trees needed to make the straws.

You know it's going to happen...there is always a downside to their solutions. Remember when plastic grocery bags were pushed to "save the trees". Ever seen some of those trees covered with plastic shopping bags?
Yes, that's another silly ban. When I go to the grocery store I use 8 - 12 bags for food for every "grocery bag" I use to put them in.
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Why should we even contribute a "tiny fraction" to a growing problem ? Maybe straws are a good first step in the right direction. You wouldn't be opposed to us actually doing something to improve the health of our little planet, would you ? God knows, we have poisoned it for way too long as it is.
It's like trying to sweeten the ocean with one cup of sugar. Yes, it does sweeten the ocean. But no, it's not worth the effort.

Rather than waste time and resources on "feel good" solutions like straw bans, why not initiate some effective solutions?
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Old 07-27-2018, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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You know most of us do not really care. If, indeed plastic straws do pollute get rid of them. I do not see what the big deal is about what kind of straws they use anyway. Paper works fine for me, I am not going to lose any sleep over which is better.
Water bottles pollute. So get rid of them too? Soccer balls pollute. Get rid of them too?

The issue has nothing to do with what straws are better. The issue is that governments pass "feel good" laws that do almost nothing for the environment but they make politicians look good.

I never use straws of any kind. But I recognize wasted government effort and self aggrandizing politicians passing laws to control others and make themselves look good.
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Old 07-27-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Austin
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LOL. providing plastic straws will be criminally prosecuted. discarded drug needles and human feces on the street are acceptable.

the priorities of seattle citizens are nuts, but it is their city not mine. whatever the citizens want is fine with me!

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Old 07-27-2018, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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You can always count on conservatives to promote the freedom to pollute. Like their opposition to the ban on plastic six-pack rings, I'll never understand why conservatives are so misguided when it comes to protecting our environment. Why not take steps to help reduce the
You can always count on liberals to promote "feel good" laws that accomplish nothing rather than promote real solutions to the problem. Liberals refuse to address the pollution issues and thereby support pollution.

I'll never understand why liberals are so misguided when it comes to protecting our environment. Why not take steps to help reduce the problem?
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Old 07-27-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Heh. A couple of years ago, I traveled to Amsterdam to set up a new office for the US company that employed me. There were no dispensable utensils in the kitchenette. Instead, there were ceramic mugs, proper knives and forks, and a dishwasher. People dropped off their mugs in the dishwasher at the end of the day, the cleaning crew ran it, end of story.
Sounds wonderful. But don't worry about the extra water used and the soap and the electricity used. That doesn't count, does it?
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Old 07-27-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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We are doomed. A nine year old started this.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...day/750563002/
Send him to China.
The kid has a bright future at CNN waiting for him.
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Old 07-27-2018, 07:02 PM
 
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