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Old 07-02-2018, 05:09 PM
 
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How do you feel about cultures that clash violently with the native culture?
I'm not a fan of clashes within cultures, let alone newcomers crashing around in a new country/culture!
Not sure I understand why you posed that question?
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Old 07-02-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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in before leftists complain about 'children being ripped from their mothers' arms'
Its OK if others do it. Its no big deal then. We have to be different. Not better just different.
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Old 07-02-2018, 05:19 PM
 
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I think Americans would be surprised at how much adjustment they'd have to do to integrate themselves:

I think it's great that Denmark is actively trying to help newcomers learn more about how to live in Danish society.
Just to be clear, it's not out of benevolence. Letting so many come, and in a short period of time, may have been out of benevolence...... and cluelessness.

But, they have wised-up and realized that they will lose their culture if they don't do this. Not to mention, how can the immigrants ever earn a reasonable living if they can't speak the language. They will have a revolution if they don't make productive, semi-assimilated citizens out of them.

The tax burden in all Scandanavian countries is intense. The working citizens will not tolerate giving newcomers handouts forever. You have to earn your keep.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:34 PM
 
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Just to be clear, it's not out of benevolence. Letting so many come, and in a short period of time, may have been out of benevolence...... and cluelessness.

But, they have wised-up and realized that they will lose their culture if they don't do this. Not to mention, how can the immigrants ever earn a reasonable living if they can't speak the language. They will have a revolution if they don't make productive, semi-assimilated citizens out of them.

The tax burden in all Scandanavian countries is intense. The working citizens will not tolerate giving newcomers handouts forever. You have to earn your keep.

The U.S. needs to learn from Denmark. We instead encourage "immigrants" to colonize rather than to assimilate. And yes, we will lose our identifying culture eventually with that stupid practice. We need to stop giving welfare to foreigners also.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:38 PM
 
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The U.S. needs to learn from Denmark. We instead encourage "immigrants" to colonize rather than to assimilate. And yes, we will lose our identifying culture eventually with that stupid practice. We need to stop giving welfare to foreigners also.
So you're fine with providing $100 000 a year in free, high quality child care to immigrant families as "punishment"?
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:41 PM
 
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So you're fine with providing $100 000 a year in free, high quality child care to immigrant families as "punishment"?

Where did I say that? No, I'm not fine with that at all. My agreement with Denmark is integrating immigrants into their country so that they become Danes and nothing but.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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their children should be sent to foster homes in liberal/progressive families, to wean them away from hate and violence.

Their children should be taught to be intolerant of such thoughts as white supremacy.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:43 PM
 
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The U.S. needs to learn from Denmark. We instead encourage "immigrants" to colonize rather than to assimilate. And yes, we will lose our identifying culture eventually with that stupid practice. We need to stop giving welfare to foreigners also.
Many would argue that the first major step backwards in getting the biggest number of newcomers to assimilate to America was in providing most everything in both English and Spanish.

In the long haul that was likely a bad move and set the pace for other things that don't help them get up to speed with American life.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:43 PM
 
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Where did I say that? No, I'm not fine with that at all. My agreement with Denmark is integrating immigrants into their country so that they become Danes and nothing but.
You agree with what they are doing but dont think anyone should pay for it?

Its the taxpayers who foot the bill if you want integration by government means. If you want the government to stay out of child care, education etc, then you are not supporting what they are doing.
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:08 PM
 
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The U.S. needs to learn from Denmark. We instead encourage "immigrants" to colonize rather than to assimilate. And yes, we will lose our identifying culture eventually with that stupid practice. We need to stop giving welfare to foreigners also.

agreed
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