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Very interesting factoids. Now let’s get to the good part where an entire profession that sucks off the public teet and operates under the “publish or perish” mindset combines factoids into an armageddonistic pastiche designed to create social angst and generate more public taxpayer money for additional ”research”. And coincidentally and randomly all seem to have a contempt for freedom and capitalism while coincidentally favoring statist-collectivist “solutions” to the impending Armageddon narrative. Solutions such as the “Paris Accords” that feature confiscating private wealth in the form of carbon taxes and redistributing those funds to 3rd world hell holes. Where we all know that the stolen loot will pay off the corrupt tyrants. Tyrants who we allow to vote in the United Nations, and who get together in gangs to loot the first world under the guise of protecting the Earth from spontaneous combustion.
So pulling out of the Paris Accords was magnificent, but we should double down and pull the plug on the United Nations altogether. But I’m sure the climate “scientists” who dispassionately measure infrared radiation will all magically and inexplicably agree that carbon taxes are just peachy and abandoning this gang rape of our country was the wrong thing to do. Amazing how they all randomly believe the same thing. Made ever so more amazing given the fact they are virtuous independent thinkers who would never in a million years all believe the same thing and have basically the same politics. Except that they do.
And yet, carbon dioxide really does absorb infrared radiation. It’s almost as if the laws of physics don’t care about politics.
"Deniers" is a politically oriented term that alarmists constantly use to try to insult, denigrate and de-legitimize people who disagree with them for the purpose of trying to stifle discussion and the expression of dissenting viewpoints on this topic.
The term “deniers” is what people who have denied the holocaust are commonly referred to – as in “holocaust deniers”. By using this term, the AGW alarmists are collectively trying to associate people who have doubts and concerns about this alarmist movement with Adolph Hitler and his murderous campaign against the Jews.
Each and every time they do this, they are invoking Godwin's law, which states that if a discussion goes on long enough, it will eventually devolve to a point where comparisons to the Nazis are made, and whoever invoked the Nazis reference automatically loses whatever debate was in progress.
Since the common leftist name-calling slurs, including "Racist," "Bigot," "Homophobe," "Sexist," and "Misogynist" are clearly out of place here, they had to dig down deep to come up with an insult that was at least as vile and hateful as these other appellations are. The comparison with Hitler and the Nazis is what they have collectively agreed upon.
So these are the tactics that the left has devolved to here.
The word "deny" also carries with it the suggestion that what is being denied is actually true, whether it is or is not, e.g., "Do you deny the charges?"
This shifts the burden of proof from the one making the claim to the one questioning the claim.
"Deniers" is a politically oriented term that alarmists constantly use to try to insult, denigrate and de-legitimize people who disagree with them for the purpose of trying to stifle discussion and the expression of dissenting viewpoints on this topic.
The term “deniers” is what people who have denied the holocaust are commonly referred to – as in “holocaust deniers”. By using this term, the AGW alarmists are collectively trying to associate people who have doubts and concerns about this alarmist movement with Adolph Hitler and his murderous campaign against the Jews.
Each and every time they do this, they are invoking Godwin's law, which states that if a discussion goes on long enough, it will eventually devolve to a point where comparisons to the Nazis are made, and whoever invoked the Nazis reference automatically loses whatever debate was in progress.
I am Jewish. As a Jew I am offended and the comparison is inapt. While the alarmists argue warming will cause mass deaths, the effect is not immediate and certain,as it is with Zyklon B gas. The effect is highly speculative and uncertain
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Since the common leftist name-calling slurs, including "Racist," "Bigot," "Homophobe," "Sexist," and "Misogynist" are clearly out of place here, they had to dig down deep to come up with an insult that was at least as vile and hateful as these other appellations are. The comparison with Hitler and the Nazis is what they have collectively agreed upon.
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So these are the tactics that the left has devolved to here.
Name calling is a substitute for debate. It's like when a teen-age kid says to his parents when being disciplined "you just don't care." It's all about emotions and not facts. And it doesn't admit of balancing with other concerns. As long as someone else is paying the left just doesn't balance real-life concerns.
One problem is the lumping together of climate change deniers and others who are only disagreeing about how much of it is caused by human actions
There is no lumping together....What else would you call people who deny established facts if not deniers?
Denial...a defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality.
There is no lumping together....What else would you call people who deny established facts if not deniers?
Denial...a defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality.
What do we call people who accept dispensed presentations of arranged facts on faith because of who presented and arranged them? The same thing we call all people who accept what they are presented on faith: Religious people!
There is no lumping together....What else would you call people who deny established facts if not deniers?
Denial...a defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality.
The climate always changes.
It’s not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt people are causing it.
What do we call people who accept dispensed presentations of arranged facts on faith because of who presented and arranged them? The same thing we call all people who accept what they are presented on faith: Religious people!
That is loopy thinking...Science does nothing based on faith, and regarding your comment on religious people, if anyone is guilty of religious thinking it is those that believe myths (no warming, or todays warming is natural) in favor of scientific evidence to the contrary. Do you reject all science, or just cherry pick what you want to disbelieve?
It’s not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt people are causing it.
It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Earth's climate has ALWAYS been changing. So while humans are probably contributing to that continuing change in some small way, it is literally impossible that humans have suddenly become 'the cause' of the Earth's constantly changing climate.
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