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No. Every work place has a finite amount of production tools for individual workers to use. There is a limit in how many workers can operate at the same steel mill. Till the point all the places are taken, or else as long as there is available work space, someone can freely choose to produce there.
Who pays for those tools? The capitalist that owns the steel mill.
Or are you implying the workers self funded each piece of tooling and equipment right on to the iron ore, flux, and molds/forgings? To the operational expenses?-coal/natural gas/arc smelting etc etc.
Like a mechanic does? Save for the 2 and 4 post lifts and "shop supplies"
Because you're failing to understand a very simple thing here.
You. The worker. Do not. Own. The. Means. Of. Production. Until. You. Own. The. Means. Of. Production. You own your labor. You are compensated for your labor...
I, the owner of the steel mill, compensate you, the worker, for your time. You are a component of production. You do not own the means of production. I DO.
I pay for your wage.
I pay for the raw material.
I paid for the tooling and equipment.
I paid for the building.
I paid for workers compensation.
I paid for your training.
You? What did you contribute? 8 hours a day? You got compensated for it. You were provided with a safe work space. In my building on my dime.
Want to own the means of production? Go be a flat rate paid mechanic. Practice what you preach. Report back your findings in how fair socialism and owning the means of production really is when you're married to the snap on truck every week, you get a job that pays 5 hours but due to rust/corrosion you completed it in 8-9 hours.
For the full effect. Go lease a shop. Be the only employee there. Be responsible for the equipment, tools, operational expenses, insurance, electric bill, complete jobs on time while having to answer the phone, book work, and make deposits after receiving payment for your work. Own every aspect of it. Report what your view of owning the means of production really is afterwards.
Who pays for those tools? The capitalist that owns the steel mill.
Or are you implying the workers self funded each piece of tooling and equipment right on to the iron ore, flux, and molds/forgings? To the operational expenses?-coal/natural gas/arc smelting etc etc.
Like a mechanic does? Save for the 2 and 4 post lifts and "shop supplies"
Because you're failing to understand a very simple thing here.
You. The worker. Do not. Own. The. Means. Of. Production. Until. You. Own. The. Means. Of. Production. You own your labor. You are compensated for your labor...
I, the owner of the steel mill, compensate you, the worker, for your time. You are a component of production. You do not own the means of production. I DO.
I pay for your wage.
I pay for the raw material.
I paid for the tooling and equipment.
I paid for the building.
I paid for workers compensation.
I paid for your training.
You? What did you contribute? 8 hours a day? You got compensated for it. You were provided with a safe work space. In my building on my dime.
Want to own the means of production? Go be a flat rate paid mechanic. Practice what you preach. Report back your findings in how fair socialism and owning the means of production really is when you're married to the snap on truck every week, you get a job that pays 5 hours but due to rust/corrosion you completed it in 8-9 hours.
For the full effect. Go lease a shop. Be the only employee there. Be responsible for the equipment, tools, operational expenses, insurance, electric bill, complete jobs on time while having to answer the phone, book work, and make deposits after receiving payment for your work. Own every aspect of it. Report what your view of owning the means of production really is afterwards.
No one owns anything, niether the capitalist nor anyone else. They are public utilities that everyone has a right to use as long as no one else is using them.
This simple concept is impossible for state capitalist to understand. All tools are built from public material from the earth, no one has a right to claim control over them and thereby control the labor input of everyone else.
Who pays for those tools? The capitalist that owns the steel mill.
Or are you implying the workers self funded each piece of tooling and equipment right on to the iron ore, flux, and molds/forgings? To the operational expenses?-coal/natural gas/arc smelting etc etc.
Like a mechanic does? Save for the 2 and 4 post lifts and "shop supplies"
Because you're failing to understand a very simple thing here.
You. The worker. Do not. Own. The. Means. Of. Production. Until. You. Own. The. Means. Of. Production. You own your labor. You are compensated for your labor...
I, the owner of the steel mill, compensate you, the worker, for your time. You are a component of production. You do not own the means of production. I DO.
I pay for your wage.
I pay for the raw material.
I paid for the tooling and equipment.
I paid for the building.
I paid for workers compensation.
I paid for your training.
You? What did you contribute? 8 hours a day? You got compensated for it. You were provided with a safe work space. In my building on my dime.
Want to own the means of production? Go be a flat rate paid mechanic. Practice what you preach. Report back your findings in how fair socialism and owning the means of production really is when you're married to the snap on truck every week, you get a job that pays 5 hours but due to rust/corrosion you completed it in 8-9 hours.
For the full effect. Go lease a shop. Be the only employee there. Be responsible for the equipment, tools, operational expenses, insurance, electric bill, complete jobs on time while having to answer the phone, book work, and make deposits after receiving payment for your work. Own every aspect of it. Report what your view of owning the means of production really is afterwards.
No one owns anything, niether the capitalist nor anyone else. They are public utilities that everyone has a right to use as long as no one else is using them.
This simple concept is impossible for state capitalist to understand. All tools are built from public material from the earth, no one has a right to claim control over them and thereby control the labor input of everyone else.
For the 10th time, how do you plan to achieve that?
NLVgal = "Bernie is a socialistic Democrat. His trade policies were not dissimilar to Trumps because protection of American Jobs was paramount...
His slogan “ no American who works forty hours a week should be forced to live in poverty” resonates because our economy, while growing, is producing more low-paying service sector jobs."
So Bernie is a nationalistic socialist, who advocates for a sort of American Workers' Party...
NLVgal = "Bernie is a socialistic Democrat. His trade policies were not dissimilar to Trumps because protection of American Jobs was paramount...
His slogan “ no American who works forty hours a week should be forced to live in poverty” resonates because our economy, while growing, is producing more low-paying service sector jobs."
So Bernie is a nationalistic socialist, who advocates for a sort of American Workers' Party...
National socialist? Wait, isn’t that callled, Nazi?
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