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Old 07-06-2018, 09:32 AM
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https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...-solid-double/

Obama’s policy toward China has built on the efforts of every presidential administration since Richard Nixon. It has been grounded in several principles: accepting increased influence for a China that rises peacefully and plays by international rules;

Because he wasn't?
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Anyway Trumps heart is where his real estate is , in the United States.
US and 25 other countries
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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Some varied and odd thinking on Tariffs and how our country should be on a more level playing field. You can see the hate from liberals.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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No, its more like he is the first president to directly lie to your face....... and you believe him.
you are either 3 or utterly and completely devoid of intellectual honesty.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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Why does Trumps circle or supporters think its always THROWN DECADES OF WORK OUT THE WINDOW, GRAB A BLACK MAGIC MARKER AND SCRIBBLE SOME PROCLAMATION and call it a day? These trade agreement came about because of hundreds of hours of work by very well educated leaders here and abroad, and everyone thought those agreements were working well. EXCEPT TRUMP and his BIG BLACK MAGIC MARKER. Sounds like a children’s book if it werent so dang dangerous.
Its the CAPS that really make your argument. I am so BLOWN AWAY.

It actually is that simple. Fiance is pretty simple. The problem is between white elephant Keynesian output vs bubble gum and popcorn consumerism. Which one is better? That is where the complexity is. We can always fix fiance, unless you are Obama that is.

The Obama "stimulus" was half of what Keynesian economists said was needed. Since the automatic stabilizers increased the deficit beyond the stimulus anyway, they appear to be correct. So Obama was a crap Keynesian.What else did he do? He helped to hand bags of money to bankers.. Do you know what economic theory or theorist was behind that policy? None. Its not anything other than counterfeiting.


Trump lowered taxes more or less in the Republican theory to stimulated an economy and it was stimulated. I am shocked, shocked I tell ya that he improved the economy form Obama mortuary , dead money principles. Anyone ,including a wart on Reagan's butt could have done better.

Basically you could say build a damn with public money to create financial flows. Or you could lower taxes to create financial flows hoping people will spend . Trump picked one. Obama picked none.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And you understand it.? Oh look another person smarter than all the rest. Do you even know what the VAT problem is or do I need to give you a puppet show?

Puppet show?

We all know Dog & Pony Shows are the norm in TrumpLandia.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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Basically you could say build a damn with public money to create financial flows. Or you could lower taxes to create financial flows hoping people will spend . Trump picked one. Obama picked none.
Most people know Obama inserted sizable tax breaks into the stimulus, and later extended Bush tax cuts.

But what we are seeing now with these tariffs is tax HIKES, not cuts.

As for the tax reform, it did nothing to increase the GDP, and even the stock market is in the red for the year. It sounds like you have been Breitbarted.

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Old 07-06-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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US and 25 other countries

That's good liberal math. Look, its the US as 1 over 25 therefore Trump cares about America only 4% The fleas on an elephant can out vote elephant in a democracy therefor have a majority stake in the direction the elephant chooses to go.


23 in the US and 14 in the rest of the world. So that means its 1 in any one country vs 23 in the US.

https://www.trump.com/real-estate-portfolio/



Estrangement and derangement ....
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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That's good liberal math.
It's not math and nor am I liberal. He just happens to have businesses in 25 countries, which tends to show your claim was bogus.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Most people know Obama did inserted sizable tax breaks into the stimulus, and later extended Bush tax cuts.
Most people who were not brain dead morons knew that industrial capacity and the labor market then proved they were pitifully low.


https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TCU/



Only a jackass who knows nothing about economics could compare a similar tax break when utilization is at 65% vs 80%. You don't want crazy over 90% , but Obama was content to see us flop around 75% .


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But what we are seeing now with these tariffs is tax HIKES, not cuts.

As for the tax reform, it did nothing to increase the GDP, and even the stock market is in the red for the year. It sounds like you have been Breitbarted.

What I am seeing now is leftist babblings. Who knew monkey trainers could create such good leftist propaganda.?

The tariffs will increase revenue to the US. The next move in the game is to lower taxes again which will help to offset the rise in prices. Trump might lose the trade war for all I know ,but that is how da game is played . I think he made a tactical mistake to involve Canada , but I could be wrong. I hope he did not bite more than he can chew.
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