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As far as conservatives go, that's something you made up. Your own bigotry at work. You see what you want to see and it's not the truth.
Blacks are inferior. Nothing to do with race or skin color. Granted hardly anyone wants to get into a discussion on why blacks are at the bottom. The pecking order is asian, white, hispanic, black. It's the same order for most educated and highest income. It's also the same order for highest percentage of 2 parent families and THAT is the reason for income and education. How hard is it to figure out that 2 parents can raise a kid better than one? The welfare state. Why stay together and raise your kids when government will? Someone gives me money, I'll take it. If the economy is doing so well, why is welfare sky high? Much greater than before the crash.
We know for a fact that if one finishes high school, works a fulltime job, and waits until they are 21 to have kids and get married, one will have a 75 percent chance of being middle class or higher.
But instead lets accuse anyone in authority of being racist and holding minorities down. Except of course Asians. They are doing so well it just has to be because the white man allowed them to, right? Couldn't be because mom and dad are inhouse and available for support.
We have been down the road of superficial self reinforcing of preconceived notions pretending to be intelligent objective analysis. You never say what the mechanism is that resulted in African American being more drawn to a "welfare state" or more susceptible to its ills, if that is what you are blaming. What is it about black people that did not allow them to escape the welfare state like whites, Asians and others? What is it about black people that would create more single parent homes than whites, Asians, etc? You stop your analysis far short of getting to the root. Your analysis will only go as far showing DIFFERENCES in behavior or outcome of blacks, but does not go deeper to see what is or was the trigger for those differences. Do blacks just have a greater natural propensity to "want something for nothing"? Do blacks just naturally have a greater propensity not to take care of their children?
Because they are raised in single parent families more so than any other group.
Plenty of people are raised in single parent families in France, Denmark, and other European nations where the out of wedlock birth rate is over 50% in many countries. Yet, where is there high crime rate? Note also that the white rate of out of wedlock births have risen from around 3% in 1960 to near 30% today here in America. If out of wedlock births increase crime, poverty, and other social ills, why has a 10 times higher illegitimacy rate not resulted in a YUGE increase of white crime, poverty and other social ills statistically in America? Notwithstanding being 10 times higher than before, white crime and poverty has not risen per capita. So your theory is a BS poorly thought out emotional fart.
We have been down the road of superficial self reinforcing of preconceived notions pretending to be intelligent objective analysis.
lmao someone learned some news words today. Where in the world did you get this? preceoncived notions lol The FACTS prove otherwise
Anyone who thinks a single parent has a decent chance to raise a family is not someone who should be in a conversation.
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You never say what the mechanism is that resulted in African American being more drawn to a "welfare state" or more susceptible to its ills, if that is what you are blaming.
Congress did it. duh Who or what other entity doles out welfare? You're not very good at this.
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What is it about black people that did not allow them to escape the welfare state like whites, Asians and others?
Single parenthood. I was very clear on that, as well as saying all groups have fallen victim to the welfare state. Blacks moreso since a higher percentage are on it. bloviate on if you must.
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What is it about black people that would create more single parent homes than whites, Asians, etc?
They are poorer, are less educated and come from single parent families more so than other groups. Money is the number one reasons couples break up.
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You stop your analysis far short of getting to the root.
No I didn't. that's just something you've made up to deflect.
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Your analysis will only go as far showing DIFFERENCES in behavior or outcome of blacks, but does not go deeper to see what is or was the trigger for those differences.
Not differences in behavior. All groups have single parenthood and those kids will be worse off.
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Try again.
Ignore and deflect again. It isn't whitey keeping minorities down.
Explain to everyone here why EVERY group has seen an increase in single parent families. Go ahead and tell us which policies have kept minoritites in chains besides the welfare state? Why it must be that people are much more racist nowadays.
Plenty of people are raised in single parent families in France, Denmark, and other European nations where the out of wedlock birth rate is over 50% in many countries. Yet, where is there high crime rate? Note also that the white rate of out of wedlock births have risen from around 3% in 1960 to near 30% today here in America. If out of wedlock births increase crime, poverty, and other social ills, why has a 10 times higher illegitimacy rate not resulted in a YUGE increase of white crime, poverty and other social ills statistically in America? Notwithstanding being 10 times higher than before, white crime and poverty has not risen per capita. So your theory is a BS poorly thought out emotional fart.
You realize the countries you list are basically socialist right? Cradle to grave entitlements galore. Where does that figure into your equation or do you even realize that fact? As for crime, since you mention France you might want to take a look at what's been going on there for the last decade or more...
lmao someone learned some news words today. Where in the world did you get this? preceoncived notions lol The FACTS prove otherwise
Anyone who thinks a single parent has a decent chance to raise a family is not someone who should be in a conversation.
Congress did it. duh Who or what other entity doles out welfare? You're not very good at this.
Single parenthood. I was very clear on that. bloviate on if you must.
They are poor. Money is the number one reasons couples break up.
No I didn't. that's just something you've made up to deflect.
Not differences in behavior. All groups have single parenthood and those kids will be worse off.
Ignore and deflect again. It isn't whitey keeping minorities down.
Explain to everyone here why EVERY group has seen an increase in single parent families. Go ahead and tell us which policies have kept minoritites in chains besides the welfare state? Why it must be that people are much more racist nowadays.
Like I pointed out in the post above. White out of wedlock births increased from 3% to nearly 30% today, from 1960 to today. Show me the evidence of an increase in white rates of poverty and crime after illegitimacy grew to be 10 times higher among whites than it used to be. If you cannot demonstrate that....then your theory is a FAIL. Don't blame crime and poverty on single parent homes among blacks when a 10 fold increase in white illegitimacy produced no change in the rate of white crime and poverty rates.
Also tell me what makes blacks more vulnerable to "gubment" than any other group to the degree that we fall victim to its ills of welfare and the like?
Plenty of people are raised in single parent families in France, Denmark, and other European nations where the out of wedlock birth rate is over 50% in many countries. Yet, where is there high crime rate? Note also that the white rate of out of wedlock births have risen from around 3% in 1960 to near 30% today here in America. If out of wedlock births increase crime, poverty, and other social ills, why has a 10 times higher illegitimacy rate not resulted in a YUGE increase of white crime, poverty and other social ills statistically in America? Notwithstanding being 10 times higher than before, white crime and poverty has not risen per capita. So your theory is a BS poorly thought out emotional fart.
You realize the countries you list are basically socialist right? Cradle to grave entitlements galore and a population nowhere near the U.S. in size. Where does that figure into your equation or do you even realize that fact?
As for crime, since you mention France you might want to take a look at what's been going on there for the last decade or more.
One must also look at how their criminal justice system handles criminals as that has a lot to do with societal attitudes.
There will always be some white people who simply do not like non-white people. It's as simple as that, sadly.
Many rural white people in "flyover America" who aren't used to being around black people are afraid of them because all they know about blacks is the stereotypes they see on TV. Aggressive, violent, short-tempered, criminals. So when they see a black person at their pool, or walking through their neighborhood, they get scared and call the police. Sometimes it's because they're just flat out racist, and sometimes it's because they genuinely are afraid that the black person is up to no good. Again, it's sad that that's the way it is....but....that's the way it is.
Intolerance and racism are very much alive and well in this country.
You realize the countries you list are basically socialist right? Cradle to grave entitlements galore and a population nowhere near the U.S. in size. Where does that figure into your equation or do you even realize that fact?
As for crime, since you mention France you might want to take a look at what's been going on there for the last decade or more.
One must also look at how their criminal justice system handles criminals as that has a lot to do with societal attitudes.
Why are you repeating the same dam post again? Ignore Europe then and just look at the increase in single parent homes and births among whites that last 60 years. Show me where it has increased white rates of poverty and crime in this nation due to illegitimacy being 10 times higher?
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