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Old 07-07-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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I havent sent you any message. I am just curious which states allow 8 month pregnant women to abort for no specific reason at all.
None now. I was clear, RvW along with its companion piece DvB did. Don't be like others and try and narrow your argument down to extremely narrow requirements also.

RvW made abortion a right defined by the right to privacy. It allowed pretty much no restrictions in the first trimester. They then argued that in the interest of the woman's health their could be restrictions as to where abortions can be performed. Lastly they noted the fetus had rights at viability and that states could enact restrictions at viability which at that time was listed as the third trimester. (viability is now earlier with new technologies).

This is what it laid out. It did NOT do anything of these things other than the first part, it just allowed for the other things if laws were passed. So without the law in place, it was allowed. Not all states enacted laws. NY did. Kansas did not.

Doe v Bolton then noted that a restriction for simple "health" meant for any reason. Simply saying "I am not ready to be a mother" was a health reason. It's why there is always a debate to enact "Life" as opposed to simply "Health". It's why Henry Hyde made sure the Hyde Amendment specifically said "Life".
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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I havent sent you any message. I am just curious which states allow 8 month pregnant women to abort for no specific reason at all.
Seven states and the District of Columbia do not have specific laws prohibiting abortion after a certain point in pregnancy. Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New Jersey, Oregon, and Vermont.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...in-states.html
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Gallup Poll. May 1-10, 2018. 68% believe abortion should be legal under only certain circumstance (rape, incest, mother's life is at stake, etc.) or illegal altogether. Only 29% believe abortion should be legal under any circumstances.

How Americans Feel About Abortion - Gallup Poll

Digging deeper into the data... Less than half of Americans support abortions conducted when the woman doesn't want the child "for any reason," and there is a sizable falloff in support for this from the first trimester (45%) to the third (20%).
Any polls where just women are asked?

Those are the only ones that should be paid attention to.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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Any polls where just women are asked?

Those are the only ones that should be paid attention to.
Supposedly the women that is high up on Trump's Supreme Court list is Pro-life.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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RvW allowed for that. It also allowed for laws to restrict that which have been put in place.
Infanticide was a crime both before and after RvW
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:40 PM
 
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Infanticide was a crime both before and after RvW
That isn't what was being discussed.
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