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Old 07-07-2018, 09:43 PM
 
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Sooooo you're saying that the government should have no right to regulate abortions in any way?
Now you're getting it. The decision whether or not to abort a fetus should be 100% a personal, private decision with no input from the State. We are not a Sharia nation. Let's not presume that our religious views must be imposed on others. Everyone must be free to decide for themselves whether or not to utilize an abortion to remove a fetus.

Having said that, the State should not be paying for this procedure either. All funds for abortions, which is an elective procedure, should be provided 100% by the person seeking the abortion.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:44 PM
 
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Absolutely not. Just as they should have no say when we want to end our life. Our say, not the government
How very interesting. It's almost like you'd agree that our rights are inalienable and should be protected at all costs.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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It is not reasonable for you to extend the hand of the state into the personal decisions of people with values that are different than your own. If abortion is incorrect for you, don't have one, or don't get a woman pregnant without being under a covenant of marriage. It's simple. Live your own life according to your own moral code. Do not presume that code is the same for others. Take care of your own business. In a free country, leave others with the freedom to live according to their values.
But what if some Americans are scared of abortions or just want to eliminate them completely? Shouldn't their concerns be important and respected?
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:47 PM
 
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Nobody is coming to take away anyone's abortion, we just want common sense abortion controls to make this country safer and to protect children.
There are no children to protect. Stop playing games. You are seeking to impose Sharia equivalent law on American women. Don't do that. Mind your business. Don't be imposing your values on others.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:48 PM
 
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But what if some Americans are scared of abortions or just want to eliminate them completely? Shouldn't their concerns be important and respected?
Americans who are scared of abortions should definitely not have them. Americans that are not scared of abortions can decide to have them. Free decision. Made by the individual. Americans who want to eliminate them completely should not have their wishes respected or considered. You don't get to impose your irrational wishes on others. Worry about your own house. Just leave it there.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:50 PM
 
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How very interesting. It's almost like you'd agree that our rights are inalienable and should be protected at all costs.
If I want an abortion or choose to smoke pot, or take my own life when I feel it's time for me....it should be my decision. Why does government have a right to control to my life.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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How very interesting. It's almost like you'd agree that our rights are inalienable and should be protected at all costs.
Incorrect. No rights are inalienable. That is a philosophy known as intrinsicism. It is incorrect. Rights are not intrinsic. Rights are created by Man and for Man. They are a human invention and a human implementation. In America we have freedom of religion. That implies and guarantees the corollary: freedom from religion. We can choose any religion or no religion. Freedom. The desire to curtail abortions is essentially an imposition of one's religious notions on others. You can't do that. In a free country, you should seek to run your own house as you see fit, and NOT TRY TO RUN THE HOMES OF OTHERS.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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There are no children to protect. Stop playing games. You are seeking to impose Sharia equivalent law on American women. Don't do that. Mind your business. Don't be imposing your values on others.
But it's for everyone's safety and the American people agree...
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:58 PM
 
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If I want an abortion or choose to smoke pot, or take my own life when I feel it's time for me....it should be my decision. Why does government have a right to control to my life.
Because the 16th amendment allows them to tax your resources directly, which makes you their property. They profit from your labor. They control you from cradle to grave just like cattle.
How does it feel to be a commodity, to the ruling wealthy class?
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Old 07-07-2018, 10:03 PM
 
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But what if some Americans are scared of abortions or just want to eliminate them completely? Shouldn't their concerns be important and respected?
But what if some Americans are scared of guns or just want to eliminate them completely? Shouldn't their concerns be important and respected?

In fact, even more so, because my abortion poses no threat to your life, unlike your gun, which could very easily be used to end my life.
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