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I'm for using eminent domain when it's in the national interests. It's selfish not to care about that more than a piece of dirt you own, IMO.
There are no “national interests,” only property rights. Any use of private land without explicit consent of that property owner is outright theft and may be prevented by any means necessary, up to and including deadly force.
You'd think we would have been smart enough to restrict private ownership for 1/4 - to at least a minimum of 1/8 of a mile around the perimeter of our country.
Thus aside from the leftist kooks who would demand 1 trillion dollars for their little section (in the hopes of creating a safe space for the illegal aliens to cross), we would not have to pay for any of the land we had the foresight to restrict from private ownership.
Who's “we?” And who gives them a right to restrict property ownership?
Funny how an avowed leftist is worried about this subject, when you oppose a wall and want open borders.
I guess you just want to post any and everything negative (in your view) hoping the wall will not get built.
On a side note, I'd be surprised if peoples personal property line went right to the border with another country.
You'd think we would have been smart enough to restrict private ownership for 1/4 - to at least a minimum of 1/8 of a mile around the perimeter of our country.
Thus aside from the leftist kooks who would demand 1 trillion dollars for their little section (in the hopes of creating a safe space for the illegal aliens to cross), we would not have to pay for any of the land we had the foresight to restrict from private ownership.
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I don't care about the wall. I don't think it will do much since many take airplanes here but I do find it amusing that the same people that are so eager to take health care away from sick people have no problem spending endless billions on a wall. All we heard was deficit, yet boom they blow $1.5 Trillion within months, then want billions for a wall. Build the wall but never again tell us we can't afford health coverage for the entire country. We apparently can afford anything.
I don't care about the wall. I don't think it will do much since many take airplanes here but I do find it amusing that the same people that are so eager to take health care away from sick people have no problem spending endless billions on a wall. All we heard was deficit, yet boom they blow $1.5 Trillion within months, then want billions for a wall. Build the wall but never again tell us we can't afford health coverage for the entire country. We apparently can afford anything.
I agree the wall is a stupid idea. But so is universal government healthcare. And all other government programs.
Who's “we?” And who gives them a right to restrict property ownership?
Property rights are absolute. Period.
Don't be obtuse, as all land that is part of American soil does not mean it is available for purchase to the very inch of that border.
Thus many a person lives on the border of a nature preserve, or the like, without being a fraction of an inch away with property ownership.
So whether you want to call it a buffer zone, restricted area, etc., I'd have thought the government would have enough land between the border and private property land owners to be able to build a wall on it without paying extortion prices.
My point was valid and on point without the need for your tripe.
Don't be obtuse, as all land that is part of American soil does not mean it is available for purchase to the very inch of that border.
Thus many a person lives on the border of a nature preserve, or the like, without being a fraction of an inch away with property ownership.
So whether you want to call it a buffer zone, restricted area, etc., I'd have thought the government would have enough land between the border and private property land owners to be able to build a wall on it without paying extortion prices.
My point was valid and on point without the need for your tripe. `
There should be no public land at all, meaning that all land should be either homesteaded or available to purchase via the free market, so your point is not valid or on point whatsoever.
I agree the wall is a stupid idea. But so is universal government healthcare. And all other government programs.
Not only is it stupid, it's dangerous. History has shown that only autocratic dictators have ever been able to build large walls. They command it to be done and the flunkies do it no matter whose toes get mashed.
This is what Trump is trying to do. He's commanded it to happen and is very petulant that it hasn't happened yet. If it get's built in spite of all legal property rights, then he will have won and we will have lost a nation to a madman. Trump has always run his businesses on the concept that, "I command, you get it done".
When the commands of a dictator override the law and the constitution, there is no nation left. Only tyranny.
If they can roll over your property, then they can roll over you.
I disagree with the slam on the health care issue.
If a nation has tax collection and that money is put in the "General Fund", then the first dollars spent should be on the health of the citizens of the nation.
Everything else comes second.
Keep them healthy and everything else will take care of itself.
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I don't care about the wall. I don't think it will do much since many take airplanes here but I do find it amusing that the same people that are so eager to take health care away from sick people have no problem spending endless billions on a wall. All we heard was deficit, yet boom they blow $1.5 Trillion within months, then want billions for a wall. Build the wall but never again tell us we can't afford health coverage for the entire country. We apparently can afford anything.
People carp about the cost of the wall, which is an estimated $25 billion, along with a fraction of that to maintain the wall on a yearly basis. Yet, the illegals cost the taxpayers almost $140 billion every year, and that cost will continue to go up if we don't do something about the illegal problem.
A one time cost of about $25 billion versus a yearly cost of about $140 billion -- seems like a no brainer, build the wall and save money
The wall along with e-verify, stopping the freebies, ending birthright citizenship or reform the 14th Amendment, where someone can't just waltz into this country and pop out a citizen baby, and, create a task force to go after ID thieves since a large number of illegals do use the ssn's of citizens to get freebies, income tax returns, etc.
There are no “national interests,” only property rights. Any use of private land without explicit consent of that property owner is outright theft and may be prevented by any means necessary, up to and including deadly force.
Selfishness is a virtue.
Securing our border isn't in the national interest? What good would your land be if terrorists enter your property via our southern border and destroy you and millions of other American lives? Where the hell are your priorities? Selfishness is a virtue?
And yes, the good walls erected on shorter sections of the border have been a huge deterrent. They haven't been a waste of time or money.
When an interstate was design to go over a poor neighborhood, people was buying the land super cheap and opening fake business on it, to demand high prices for the land, taking the state to court, I wondering if they are doing that here to. Just me but I feel the border should be federAl land anyway.
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