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Old 07-11-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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Has he done anything yet for those other common arms at the time of approval of the 2nd. ie grenades?


The constitutional right of every citizen to own and carry grenades should not be infringed, so hopefully this guy can do something about it.
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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What gun rights has anyone given us since Constitution?. Zero. We have had nothing but regulations , infr8ngement, and permissiins to do certain things..
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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This whole case is an acknowledgement that the government has the right to regulate property rights. It is only because the government decided not to classify the AR-15 as a military grade weapon that Mr. Wilson won his case. He essentially gained permission from his masters to proceed. This fellow lost the right to call himself and anarchist the moment he petitioned the government for permission. No compromises, remember? That what the anarcho-capitalists are always so condescendingly berating conservatives about isn't it? Any compromise makes you a hypocrite and a coward. You should be ashamed to support somebody who recognizes the authority of the court.
Totally wrong. The specific PURPOSE of the Second Amendment is to guarantee the Natural (not government granted) Right of the people TO HAVE MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS.

The AR-15 is also "Common Use", and therefore defined as acceptable my precedent.
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:55 AM
 
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Military Grade. FYI, military uses Beretta 9mm, Sig 320, 1911 45 pistols. You can buy those. They are military weapons and civilian. The AR15Bis not and never will be a military weapon as it cant fire 3 round bursts or fully auto.
The M1 garand is a semi auto much more deadly weapon , by caliber standards, and you can buy one and have fed ex send it to your house. You still get background check, just no ffl is required.
An M14 is too..
So Liberal, explain this mysterious definition of MILITAR6 GRADE.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:02 AM
 
Location: PSL
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This whole case is an acknowledgement that the government has the right to regulate property rights. It is only because the government decided not to classify the AR-15 as a military grade weapon that Mr. Wilson won his case. He essentially gained permission from his masters to proceed. This fellow lost the right to call himself and anarchist the moment he petitioned the government for permission. No compromises, remember? That what the anarcho-capitalists are always so condescendingly berating conservatives about isn't it? Any compromise makes you a hypocrite and a coward. You should be ashamed to support somebody who recognizes the authority of the court.
It's bigger than the .gov to not classify the AR15 as a military grade weapon. That's just a slap in the face to the hyperbolic anti gun crowd that have been making the claim that AR15s are weapons of war, and getting away with hijacking the phrase "assault rifle/weapon" to mean what they want it to. That ended yesterday. Assault rifles are clearly defined as compact/carbine length rifles that fire an intermediate powered cartridge (in between a pistol and rifle cartridge) capable of selective rates of fire.

That is literally the exact same thing as the government saying a man who has a sex change is legally a woman, or a woman that has a sex change is a man. You might not think so or say that person isn't a real man or woman. Just like the anti gun crowd calls an AR15 an assault rifle. It's not an assault rifle. Not until it has a 3rd hole and the fire control group to have selective rates of fire.

This is Much bigger than a slap in the face to hyperbolic anti gun crowd.
He was reimbursed paying ITAR fees $2,250 per year, plus an excise tax of 11%. Same things I'd be subject to had I gone through and got my 02 07 and SOT.
COULD even argue it's a double jeopardy tax as you're paying the federal government to have the FFL(s) and SOT.

That is the ground work to get ITAR out of crippling gunsmiths and manufacturers. If you have an FFL and/or are a gunsmith for profit, not doing it for yourself, you are subject to paying the ludicrous fees to the .gov to have the "privilege" to be in the business.

ITAR is BS that is an abuse on small business owners under the false premise that you are not doing international sales of military grade weaponry/components.
Whether you sell scopes, or lowers or uppers, complete weapons, etc or thread a barrel to disassemble and make repairs. This is the ground work for manufacturers and small time gunsmiths to not be subject to federal over reach.
That's a gain for everyone. Left or right or libertarian/ancap etc.

It's also a gain for the 1st amendment, as the .gov can not regulate open source sharing or propose regulations taxation or any other hindrance towards the sharing of ideas/knowledge. Another win for we the people, whether you are liberal conservative libertarian an cap etc.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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lmao! I know gun owners who can’t even change the oil on their car and you think they are going to make their own guns? All I see is a lot of people dying in manufacturing accidents and defective guns exploding and killing their makers.


The hard work has already been done for you, the only requirement is the plan provided by someone else that has presumably tested their design and a printer capable of printing it. You download the plan and send it to the printer, instant gun.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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Schumer was pretty vocal in his opposition to this.

Hopefully he'll be in tears by morning.
This time they'll be REAL tears.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: USA
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No more gun regulations! Now clinically insane people, felons and terrorists can stockpile guns with nothing to stop them. God bless America.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Totally wrong. The specific PURPOSE of the Second Amendment is to guarantee the Natural (not government granted) Right of the people TO HAVE MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS.

The AR-15 is also "Common Use", and therefore defined as acceptable my precedent.
Baby steps in the right direction.
This was just a slap in the face to the anti gun crowd that calls AR15s weapons of war. They were just ruled not inherently military. Rendering that argument and attempt to redefine via hijack and emotion what an Assault Rifle is, officially an invalid and worthless argument.

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Military Grade. FYI, military uses Beretta 9mm, Sig 320, 1911 45 pistols. You can buy those. They are military weapons and civilian. The AR15Bis not and never will be a military weapon as it cant fire 3 round bursts or fully auto.
The M1 garand is a semi auto much more deadly weapon , by caliber standards, and you can buy one and have fed ex send it to your house. You still get background check, just no ffl is required.
An M14 is too..
So Liberal, explain this mysterious definition of MILITAR6 GRADE.
Not unless you have an FFL for curios and relics. You can not order a M1 Garand or 1911 surplus pistol from CMP and have it shipped to your house. It goes to an FFL for you to do a transfer.

You've got the right idea demanding the anti-gunners define what military grade is. Now their argument of the AR being a weapon of war isn't so anymore.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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Would you buy a lawnmower that your neighbor made from scratch? I doubt it.

This technology is going to revolutionize how things are manufactured in every imaginable industry. A manufacturer will be able to produce lawnmowers one day, toys the next day and guns the day after that. The private individual will have the same capabilities, they only need a plan and a printer capable of printing the desired product.
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