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The fool is a country that is paying over and over again for these countries who are not meeting their obligations! In the meantime these countries are ignore what we do for them. What good is NATO when its countries wont do what they agreed to do?
Ignoring 80 years of history because your leader tells you to. Get your own mind back.
Of course they will complain when someone stands up to their UNFAIR trade practices, and lack of contribution to their own self defense. I'd be concerned Trump wasn't doing his job if they WEREN'T complaining. There is nothing wrong with holding allies, as well as enemies accountable, and engaging in open negotiations on behalf of your country's best interest.
Fine and Dandy if the accuser isn't guilty of the same thing.
Every country looks after itself
Nothing wrong with working with allies to resolve issues.
The approach is important. So far Trump's approach hasn't been very successful on the international front -- at all.
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Ignoring 80 years of history because your leader tells you to. Get your own mind back.
Oh so we have been taken advantage of for 80 years. That's fantastic. We spend 72% of the total budget towards NATO. I have my own mind. The USA is being SCREWED! Finally we have someone at the helm who is putting an end to this BS!
The fool is a country that is paying over and over again for these countries who are not meeting their obligations! In the meantime these countries are ignore what we do for them. What good is NATO when its countries wont do what they agreed to do?
What is the USA paying for. It's paying for its own protection. The USA does not participate in NATO programs as a generous, caring country. It does so for its own self serving purposes...nothing wrong with that.
And there is so much more to it.
And countries are working towards meeting their goals.
And what is being asked is for other countries to build up their military spending. That doesn't go in the NATO coffers as part of a 'bill paid'.
Trump is playing his base. It worked last year and he is doing it again.
The prosperity of the west is simply the prosperity of the west. It has nothing to do with Europe. Europe has been nothing but a leech on Americas backside!
Jesus. This post makes no sense, Europe is the West along with Canada and Australia. We used to be but who the hell knows.
What is the USA paying for. It's paying for its own protection. The USA does not participate in NATO programs as a generous, caring country. It does so for its own self serving purposes...nothing wrong with that.
And there is so much more to it.
And countries are working towards meeting their goals.
And what is being asked is for other countries to build up their military spending. That doesn't go in the NATO coffers as part of a 'bill paid'.
Trump is playing his base. It worked last year and he is doing it again.
Poor USA always being picked on....poor baby.
Merkel has hit back.
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Chancellor Angela Merkel recalled her own youth in Soviet-dominated East Germany and said Germany was independent in its policy choices in a pointed response to U.S. President Donald Trump saying Berlin was a “totally controlled by Russia”.
Three hours after Trump’s startling tirade over German imports of Russian gas and its slowness to increase defence spending, Merkel told reporters on arrival at a NATO summit in Brussels on Wednesday: “I have experienced myself how a part of Germany was controlled by the Soviet Union.
“I am very happy that today we are united in freedom, the Federal Republic of Germany. Because of that we can say that we can make our independent policies and make independent decisions. That is very good, especially for people in eastern Germany.”
She also defended Germany’s contribution to an alliance which Trump says has placed too much burden on the U.S. taxpayer: “Germany does a lot for NATO,” she said.
“Germany is the second largest provider of troops, the largest part of our military capacity is offered to NATO and until today we have a strong engagement towards Afghanistan. In that we also defend the interests of the United States.”
Fine and Dandy if the accuser isn't guilty of the same thing.
Every country looks after itself
Nothing wrong with working with allies to resolve issues.
The approach is important. So far Trump's approach hasn't been very successful on the international front -- at all.
I know -- give it time. ....we are......
I hear what you are saying, but we have been taken advantage of for many decades by our allies with regards to trade, and contributions to NATO for the defense of Europe, and Asia. Trump's style is not very diplomatic, but that may be just what we need to get some movement from these countries to level the playing field. Trump is NOT asking for unfair advantages, just a more equal footing. Yes, he asks in a demanding way. That's his style. I think it will work better than the typical politician parsing every word.
It is going to require patience as you insinuate as these countries will cry like stuck pigs in order to turn the tide of U.S. public opinion to get their way. The media will act as their megaphone.
It is funny that I have to take the conservative position. Trumplicans are acting like Putin loving commies who seek to undermine our nation and alliances. Calling it like it is.
NATO, an alliance where American taxpayers get to pay for the defense of european countries from the boogieman.
Past time to bail.
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