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Old 07-11-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: The 719
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But what will they do now, that the PUTRID pile of EXCREMENT is being his usual insulting self at the Nato Summit?
Grow up i_love_autumn

Trump isn't saying we are leaving NATO, he's demanding they pay their share because American tax payers are unfairly paying more than our share.

You place your expectations way too high.

In the meantime, Waa! Not My Pwesident! Waa!

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No. That's the Nitwit Left changing the subject.
You know - the way they changed it from "illegal alien" to "immigrant".
Oh, you mean like a latitudinally challenged immigrant?
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Ever hear of good cop, bad cop?

And does anyone here believe that NATO countries should not be spending 2% of GDP on their own defense, as required by the NATO treaty, and which only the UK, Greece and Estonia are currently doing?
This.
Read it again, OP until it freaking SINKS IN
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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silly liberals, i guess you think that thinking is for what again? trump said NOTHING about leaving NATO, only that the members should be paying more than they are now for their own defense. isnt that what you guys wanted during the obama administration?
^ This.

This thread is laughably misleading.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Why are Republicans completely silent about the billions we send Israel?

I think Trump is trying to blow up NATO, then will move to WTO and by the time he's done, the U.S. will be an isolationist country.

The cartoons will depict Trump walking away with the White House in the background reduced to burning rubble.

so according to you liberals, trump is going to blow up NATO, kavanaugh is going to overturn roe v wade and kill the rights of all americans, etc. none of which has any truth in the accusations, but the lefties make them anyway.


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<sad trombone> Too bad, wrong answer, but we have some lovely parting prizes.

In 2006, the NATO countries passed anon-binding agreement to aim for the 2% figure by 2024.

You either lie or you know jack about NATO. Then again, the same could be said for your president, so...

oh yes that non binding agreement to aim for 2% in 6 years. the key words being non binding, and aim for. that means if they dont get there, they just shrug their shoulders and say oh well, it was non binding agreement anyway so we didnt really have to do it, just try for doing it.


in the end it never fails, when democrats are in power, everything is going to come up roses, even though they dont, and when republicans are in power the left complains about how everything is going to fall apart at the seems and that we are going to destroy the world, again even though that never happens either.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I wrote this before, Trump is using allied military spending as a red herring to deflect from what his real goal is. Trump doesn't give a damn about allied military budgets. What this phony controversy is really all about is the unraveling of the Western alliance and the fools and lemmings enabling the Trump/Putin effort.
You're absolutely right, he's looking for an excuse, and this is the only thing he has, at the moment. Give him time, he is working on Putin's behalf.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:32 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Ever hear of good cop, bad cop?

And does anyone here believe that NATO countries should not be spending 2% of GDP on their own defense, as required by the NATO treaty, and which only the UK, Greece and Estonia are currently doing?
In 2006 NATO countries made a commitment to spend 2% of their GDP on defense and some countries have not met that goal (but the 2006 NATO agreement gives those countries until 2024 to meet that 2% goal.)

"NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told Politico EU’s Confidential podcast this month that he expects eight nations will cross the 2 percent threshold in 2018, which he said was up from three countries in 2014."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ech/102236892/
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/07/tr...nato-spending/

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Old 07-11-2018, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Grow up i_love_autumn

Trump isn't saying we are leaving NATO, he's demanding they pay their share because American tax payers are unfairly paying more than our share.
Trump said quite a bit more, he insulted Germany. No one has an issue with him asking to pay their fair share.
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Old 07-11-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: FL
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Yeah, whenever my friends come over, I have my GF be nice to them while I insult them. Works great! You should try it with your friends, let me know how it goes.
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Old 07-11-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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oh yes that non binding agreement to aim for 2% in 6 years. the key words being non binding, and aim for.
Go inform your fellow Trump follower, not me. He seems to think it's a treaty obligation.
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Old 07-11-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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So the vote supporting NATO was 97-2, with only the isolationist twins, Mike Lee of Utah and Rand Paul of Kentucky voting no, and John McCain not present to vote.
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