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Old 07-12-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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Gas supply isn't something you just increase at will. You can debate all day about how much influence this has over Germany and Europe but the fact is if Russia decides to turn off the supply they are screwed.
If's are not what is being discussed.

If a bunch of nukes fell tomorrow, we would all have problems.

If a plaque struck that we had no cure for, millions might die.

If If If.....

There are things called facts and these include that Trump lied about all the percentages as well as his conclusion "captive"...as well as all the little lies in between...

BTW, given your screen name, how much product do you know about shipped to or controlled by the Chinese? I heard some podcasts about WV and it turns out the Chinese brokers or their representatives seem to control the world coal market.

You wouldn't be involved helping our enemies???
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Lets see. It's not hard to understand.
  • Germany needs oil. Lots of it. It's an industrial nation.
  • Germany has no oil reserves.
  • Russia has plenty of oil.
  • Russian has pipeline for oil to go to Germany.
  • When Putin yanks chain, Merkel barks.

Not hard to understand at all.


As usual Trump is 100% right.
yupper, and they use each other, to maintain their needs....it's all a game....
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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craigiri If's are not what is being discussed.
No they are not, but we don't have to live like that, Germany does...so they are always concerned about the if's and it needs to be understood, there is always that possiblity that could be the demise of many people.


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If a bunch of nukes fell tomorrow, we would all have problems.
Nukes are not a problem, why? Because they want this land...we don't have to worry about nukes, b/c nukes would result in destroying the world, and no one wants that, but land, oh yes indeed, so how to obtain land from other countries....sneak into that land and over take them someday.

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If a plaque struck that we had no cure for, millions might die.
yes, your right, but, again, we have the technology here in this country to tray and correct it, heal it....
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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There are things called facts

Speaking of facts, where does that 10% come from you cited?


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BTW, given your screen name, how much product do you know about shipped to or controlled by the Chinese? I heard some podcasts about WV and it turns out the Chinese brokers or their representatives seem to control the world coal market.
Very little of the coal produced in the US is exported relative to production and the Chinese import relatively very little relative to their consumption. Like us most of it is domestically produced. As I noted previously likely most of what they are importing from the US is for it's specific chemical properties for industrial processes like coking.





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https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...e=coal_imports
The United States is a net exporter of coal, meaning that it exports more coal to other countries than it imports. In 2012, U.S. coal exports reached a record high of 126 million short tons, equal to 12% of U.S. coal production. U.S. coal exports declined each year from 2012 through 2016 and then increased in 2017. In 2017, the United States exported about 97 million short tons of coal—equal to about 13% of U.S. coal production—to at least 42 countries.
The top five destinations of U.S. coal exports and their shares of total coal exports in 2017 were
  • India—11.8%
  • South Korea—9.7%
  • The Netherlands—9.7%
  • Japan—7.9
  • Brazil—7.8%
  • Total share of top five—46.9%
The United States exports metallurgical coal and steam coal. Metallurgical coal can be used for steel production, and steam coal can be used for electricity generation. Metallurgical coal dominates U.S. coal exports.

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Old 07-12-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Default Trump is absolutely right about Germany

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If's are not what is being discussed.

If a bunch of nukes fell tomorrow, we would all have problems.

If a plaque struck that we had no cure for, millions might die.

If If If.....

There are things called facts and these include that Trump lied about all the percentages as well as his conclusion "captive"...as well as all the little lies in between...

BTW, given your screen name, how much product do you know about shipped to or controlled by the Chinese? I heard some podcasts about WV and it turns out the Chinese brokers or their representatives seem to control the world coal market.

You wouldn't be involved helping our enemies???
Did you actually read what about dozen people wrote on this thread? The captive comment is NOT about whether Germany or Russia has a trade deficit with each other.

Use your common sense and think about it. If Germany depends on Russia for a large percentage of its energy supplies, then Russia now has leverage over Germany. You can say that gives Russia a great deal of leverage over Germany which can be used during a critical period in foreign affairs.

The problem is that Germany is in the NATO alliance where the major potential adversary is Russia. But how can Germany meet its obligations to its Allies if Russia can just turn off its energy supplies? That is what Trump means by captive.

To make matters worse, Germany has practically disarmed. The European Union's largest and wealthiest nation only has a army of about 60,0000. How can Germany help deter the Russians with only 60,000 men?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Army

The whole concept of NATO is to avoid conflict by forming a collective security organization, peace thru strength. But the Germans have decided to ignore their own contribution, concentrate on making money and instead piggy back their security needs on their Allies, especially the United States. If everyone did that, then the Alliance becomes worthless and war becomes more likely not less.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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You wouldn't be involved helping our enemies???

FYI my interests in the coal industry are in the anthracite heating industry niche, it's about as "Made in USA" as you are going to get barring no industry.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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You are talking to someone who lived within 5 miles of "how his businesses worked" in Atlantic City. You are also assigning intelligence to a creature with none. Very Forest Gumpish.

The basics are clear.

1. If he invested his inheritance with Buffet, he'd have 180 BILLION.
2. If he invested in decent index funds, he'd have 7-9 BILLION solid and low risk.
3. Instead, his "business experience" brought him virtually no return (he was pretty much dead broke...luckily some Russian and other foreign banks came through) and left a trail of ripped off bondholders, taxpayers and contractors in his wake. Still, even after all this his return is far below mine or anyone who invested reasonably...

In other words....he never made anything of what he was given.

In my book that's a Loser. To assign him credit for losing vast amounts of return is fantastic.

He is admittedly and reportedly a know nothing. Do you honestly think if we handed him an empty globe that he could fill in the name of even 1/3 of the countries? He doesn't read. He doesn't write.

All he does is BS and cons....

Worse yet, you appear to think that his "hyperbole" fools the likes of the Chinese or Europeans...or Putin...or anyone with 1/2 a brain. They don't.

I will give you this much credit. His hyperbole is meant to fool YOU...his base here. That's all. That is because they are the only possible audience for such shenanigans.

Always remember that a monkey will score 33% on a 3 question multiple choice test. So pointing to the thing he accidentally says that is true (a distinct minority of his statements) isn't anything to crow about.

If you truly think deceit and lying constantly about virtually everything - even to your best friends, family and business associates....is a "good strategy", then we differ in that sense.
This vitriolic venting has nothing at all to do with your original post.

So Trump could have sat back and invested and been richer. But he took a chance and invested and built things. Real estate by its nature is more volatile. And so what if not everything he did was 100% successful? People learn through their failures and mistakes as much as their successes. I would not have been interested in voting for someone who did nothing but sit idly by while his inheritance grew.

This man whom you deem "a loser" and mock and scorn is The President of the United States. He is the most powerful person on the planet. Who are YOU?

As to your comment that "he doesn't read [and] he doesn't write", there are many ways people learn and process information. Some people are visual or kineathetic learners. It doesn't make them stupid.

Your condescension is revolting.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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Lets see. It's not hard to understand.
  • Germany needs oil. Lots of it. It's an industrial nation.
  • Germany has no oil reserves.
  • Russia has plenty of oil.
  • Russian has pipeline for oil to go to Germany.
  • When Putin yanks chain, Merkel barks.
Not hard to understand at all.

As usual Trump is 100% right.
Not so fast. Germany can and does receive crude oil shipment via tankers. In a pinch they can buy the oil they need on the world market, they are not locked in to Russia. 80% of Germany's total energy use comes from sources other than Russia.

Trump's lying and exaggerating again. Just like he always does every day.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:02 AM
 
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80% of Germany's total energy use comes from sources other than Russia.

The problem with this "80%" or whatever it may be is a very large percentage of that 80% is domestically produced with renewable energy. It's unreliable and dependent on the gas being imported into Germany for reliability. Futhermore if they wish to continue to eliminate power from coal plants the reliance on gas will only increase.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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Not so fast. Germany can and does receive crude oil shipment via tankers. In a pinch they can buy the oil they need on the world market, they are not locked in to Russia. 80% of Germany's total energy use comes from sources other than Russia.

Trump's lying and exaggerating again. Just like he always does every day.
Help us out here and carefully explain how crude oil is turned into Natural Gas, which is what is under discussion.
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