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Old 07-12-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Murphy, North Carolina
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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/39...ties-elsewhere


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A group of liberal House Democrats on Thursday introduced legislation to abolish U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and shift the bureau’s various duties to other federal agencies.
The new proposal, unveiled by Democratic Reps. Mark Pocan (Wis.), Pramila Jayapal (Wash.) and Adriano Espaillat (N.Y.), is the first piece of legislation to tackle the thorny issue, which has become a political lightning rod on both sides of the ideological spectrum in recent weeks.
Liberal Democrats have latched on to the “Abolish ICE” movement to protest President Trump’s aggressive approach to deportations, while Republicans have hammered the effort as a soft-on-crime strategy that threatens public safety.
The bill’s supporters contend that ICE, which was launched in 2003 as part of the creation of the Homeland Security Department, has become “militarized” in its approach to deporting immigrants under the Trump administration. They’re pointing to recent high-profile raids on undocumented workers, reports of substandard detention facilities and the ongoing saga of family separations at the border as evidence that ICE has lost its compass and needs to be scrapped.
“President Trump’s blanket directive to round up and target all undocumented immigrants underscores the unchecked power which ICE has used to terrorize our communities,” Pocan said in a statement. “From conducting raids at garden centers and meatpacking plants, to targeting families outside churches and schools, the President is using ICE as a mass-deportation force to rip apart the moral fabric of our nation.”
The Democrats’ bill, dubbed the Humane Immigration Enforcement System Act, would create a commission to examine ICE’s various responsibilities and recommend transferring them to other agencies. Aside from enforcing immigration laws, the agency is also charged with a host of less controversial duties, including the policing of money laundering, cyber crimes, human trafficking and transnational gangs. The Democrats contend other departments — including Justice, Commerce and Health and Human Services — are better equipped to handle those responsibilities.
Congress would then be required to act on the commission's recommendations, and ICE would be eliminated within a year.
“The agency has a very broad jurisdiction and was created to combat terrorism, human trafficking, and drugs. Yet, ICE now spends the majority of its time detaining and separating mothers and fathers seeking safety for themselves and their children,” said Espaillat. “We are witnessing a human rights crisis, and our bill would bring forward a new model and dismantle ICE once and for all.”
Other co-sponsors of the legislation, which has little chance of advancing in the Republican-controlled House, include Democratic Reps. Earl Blumenauer (Ore.), Yvette Clarke (N.Y.), Jim McGovern (Mass.), José Serrano (N.Y.), Adam Smith (Wash.) and Nydia Velázquez (N.Y.).
Once a fringe movement, the “Abolish ICE” campaign took off last month after the stunning primary defeat of Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.) by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a young Hispanic activist who made the elimination of ICE — and the reallocation of its duties — a central component of her campaign. She’s calling for “a different name and a different approach.”
“Once ICE was established, we really kind of militarized that enforcement to a degree that was previously unseen in the United States,” Ocasio-Cortez told NPR late last month.
The movement has received a cold reception from top Democratic leaders, including Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.) and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who have both raised red flags about the message that “Abolish ICE” might send. They’re calling for ICE to refocus its energies, without terminating the agency altogether.
But a handful of liberal lawmakers has joined the effort, including a number of potential 2020 presidential contenders hoping to attract support from the Democratic Party’s liberal base. The list of supporters includes New York Mayor Bill de Blasio and Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) and Cory Booker (N.J.).
Republicans have wasted no time launching a countereffort to characterize the “Abolish ICE” supporters — and all Democrats by extension — as soft on crime.
Delivering that message last week was Vice President Pence, who told a group of ICE employees that the administration is “with you 100 percent.”
“Under President Donald Trump, we will never abolish ICE,” he said.

I'll be damned...and what a surprise, they all represent districts that are far from the southern border. Who'd have thought it?


Regressives just screwed themselves...say goodbye to the midterms and your 2020 hopes.


Archive link just in case: Dems introduce bill to eliminate ICE, shift duties elsewhere | TheHill
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Old 07-12-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Is Trump secretly paying them ? Lol
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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ICE was started in 2002. Before ICE was formed, their tasks were done by other agencies. The proposals are to put their tasks back into other agencies.

Not sure why. What are the proposals saying is the reason for placing ICE's responsibilities into other agencies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._I...ms_Enforcement

ICE does not patrol American borders; rather, that role is performed by the United States Border Patrol, a unit of U.S. Customs and Border Protection
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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I'll be damned...and what a surprise, they all represent districts that are far from the southern border. Who'd have thought it?


Regressives just screwed themselves...say goodbye to the midterms and your 2020 hopes.


Archive link just in case: Dems introduce bill to eliminate ICE, shift duties elsewhere | TheHill

What a joke! Deporting "immigrants", "undocumented workers"? Can they possibly put more spin on the issue with their PC language?
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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Is Trump secretly paying them ? Lol
Trump's secret payments are usually reserved for porn stars....Ice Daniels?
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Is Trump secretly paying them ? Lol
It makes you wonder how long the Dems will continue to double-down on stupid, doesn't it? They are doing everything in their power to come across as loons and lose the centrists in this country.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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It makes you wonder how long the Dems will continue to double-down on stupid, doesn't it? They are doing everything in their power to come across as loons and lose the centrists in this country.
There are few “Democrats” left, their Party has been taken over by the Nutter Leftists. Even self identified Democrats didn’t agree in the most recent Poll that ICE should be abolished.

The Hysterical Meltdown continues
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/39...ties-elsewhere





I'll be damned...and what a surprise, they all represent districts that are far from the southern border. Who'd have thought it?


Regressives just screwed themselves...say goodbye to the midterms and your 2020 hopes.


Archive link just in case: Dems introduce bill to eliminate ICE, shift duties elsewhere | TheHill
Just like so most of the anti immigration stuff being spewed here is from non border states. People living in border states have a less hysterical view of all of this. Ice and for that matter Homeland Security could stand to be drastically pruned back IMHO.Its formation was not thought out very well in the first place and they have powers I’d rather our government not have.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:27 PM
 
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Politicizing ICE is a terrible political move on the part of liberals. For so many reasons. If we were to boil down the sum effect of such a push, it will be that ICE will never be abolished.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:34 PM
 
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I'll be damned...and what a surprise, they all represent districts that are far from the southern border. Who'd have thought it?


Regressives just screwed themselves...say goodbye to the midterms and your 2020 hopes.


Archive link just in case: Dems introduce bill to eliminate ICE, shift duties elsewhere | TheHill
We didn't have ICE before the early 2000's. How did our border function then?
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