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Old 07-13-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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I didn't proclaim any such thing. Care to try again?

Matter of fact, I stated if you can down play Clinton you can't down play Trump your a hypocrite. And vice versa.

I merely pointed out Clinton abused women while in office. Trump didn't. It doesn't make it any less significant or more just than Clinton. However, one used their celebrity status and fortune in private life.

One used political status.

Both being equal? The actions similar or the same. It's an apples to oranges difference. Both are fruit but citrus is acidic.

Using political status is far worse (orange). Why? He was an elected official to lead the nation. Not chase women. Trump's actions similar (apple). The act being the same. One broke laws while leading the nation. The other did it behind closed doors long before they were in the political arena.

Which is worse?
I say a seated politician abusing their status and power to take advantage of an intern to cheat on your wife, vs a porn star in private life outside of politics to cheat on your wife...

Why do I hold that position?
Clinton was not elected to chase women.
You're still just making excuses.

You're merely using whataboutism to try and deflect.

You can make excuses that one molests women in the private sector vs the other molests women while working in public... None of that matters. It's both the same.

You're ignoring the big difference; Clinton is in the past, trump is in the present. Clinton is no longer in office, and hasn't been for over 17 years.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: PSL
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You're still just making excuses.

You're merely using whataboutism to try and deflect.

You can make excuses that one molests women in the private sector vs the other molests women while working in public... None of that matters. It's both the same.

You're ignoring the big difference; Clinton is in the past, trump is in the present. Clinton is no longer in office, and hasn't been for over 17 years.
No I'm not.
Bill Clinton committed an impeachable offense. Trump didnt. You're just pizzed because your girl lost.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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The issue with Clinton in respect to his office was lying about it. I'm fairly confident Trump is lying much more in office than Clinton...
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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You're still just making excuses.

You're merely using whataboutism to try and deflect.

You can make excuses that one molests women in the private sector vs the other molests women while working in public... None of that matters. It's both the same.

You're ignoring the big difference; Clinton is in the past, trump is in the present. Clinton is no longer in office, and hasn't been for over 17 years.
You are correct. Nobody gives a rat's ass about Bill Clinton except the Trumpies who are grasping at straws to divert attention away from Trump's complete lack of decency, integrity, honesty, and anything even remotely resembling moral character.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:47 AM
 
Location: PSL
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You are correct. Nobody gives a rat's ass about Bill Clinton except the Trumpies who are grasping at straws to divert attention away from Trump's complete lack of decency, integrity, honesty, and anything even remotely resembling moral character.
No. That's the basis of your argument, your morality.

Not the fact Clinton committed an impeachable offense. Trump Didn't

You're making your argument on an immature basis of Muh moralityz!
I'm making my argument on the fact he committed crimes while in office.

"Trumpies" don't reason with emotion. You do. That's why you conflate deflection with us, because we don't jump down to argue emotions you do.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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No I'm not.
Bill Clinton committed an impeachable offense. Trump didnt. You're just pizzed because your girl lost.

The only impeachable offense was lying under oath. Getting a blowjob wasn't why he was impeached.



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No. That's the basis of your argument, your morality.

Not the fact Clinton committed an impeachable offense. Trump Didn't

You're making your argument on an immature basis of Muh moralityz!
I'm making my argument on the fact he committed crimes while in office.

"Trumpies" don't reason with emotion. You do. That's why you conflate deflection with us, because we don't jump down to argue emotions you do.


You don't even know why Clinton got impeached apparently. So yeah... you're reasoning with emotion and are attempting to deflect with something that is almost two decades into the history books.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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No. That's the basis of your argument, your morality.

Not the fact Clinton committed an impeachable offense. Trump Didn't

You're making your argument on an immature basis of Muh moralityz!
I'm making my argument on the fact he committed crimes while in office.

"Trumpies" don't reason with emotion. You do. That's why you conflate deflection with us, because we don't jump down to argue emotions you do.
You mean because the hypocritical GOP Congress decided to pursue an investigation into Clinton for extramarital sexual relationships while many of them were also in the process of having or had previously had their own extramarital sexual relationships?

And as noted, the impeachment was for lying under oath. Trump of course it too much of a coward to testify under oath in the current investigation into his doings, which are FAR more serious and significant than Clinton's sexual indiscretions.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:17 AM
 
Location: PSL
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The only impeachable offense was lying under oath. Getting a blowjob wasn't why he was impeached.







You don't even know why Clinton got impeached apparently. So yeah... you're reasoning with emotion and are attempting to deflect with something that is almost two decades into the history books.
I do know why he got impeached. I merely pointed out the hypocrisy of the Clinton's with people expressing outrage over Trump and calling him into question on acts that he committed prior to being president vs those that gave a free pass on Clinton.
Trump didn't do those acts while as president. it isn't a deflection. Nor is an emotional argument. A logical argument.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:18 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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No. That's the basis of your argument, your morality.

Not the fact Clinton committed an impeachable offense. Trump Didn't

You're making your argument on an immature basis of Muh moralityz!
I'm making my argument on the fact he committed crimes while in office.

"Trumpies" don't reason with emotion. You do. That's why you conflate deflection with us, because we don't jump down to argue emotions you do.
Funny. Trumpies are not emotional? Strictly rational and logical? And yet they keep harping on Clinton years after everyone else has consigned him to the dustbin of history. Now why is that?
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Hmmm so we can only talk about things that have happened this month or day ?
Kinda funny isn't it-after 8 years of the "butbutbutBush" president?
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