Why is it ok for businesses to ban Trump supporters, but not Muslims? (generations, education)

[moneill]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

do you think its okay for you to avoid a business because its politics, beliefs or values arent in line with your own?

Avoiding and banning -- two different concepts.

Sure avoid what you want....and a business can avoid the customers they don't want -- (they already do in some ways -- choosing their location, their price points, their services, etc.)...

I kind of agree with businesses should be able to decide their customers....but the whole concept of throwing someone out of a restaurant because they work for Trump -- meh -that's not right.

I don't like treating people poorly because you disagree with them.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by moneill

Avoiding and banning -- two different concepts.

Sure avoid what you want....and a business can avoid the customers they don't want -- (they already do in some ways -- choosing their location, their price points, their services, etc.)...

I kind of agree with businesses should be able to decide their customers....but the whole concept of throwing someone out of a restaurant because they work for Trump -- meh -that's not right.

I don't like treating people poorly because you disagree with them.

You want the right to discriminate while denying it to others.

[moneill]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

You want the right to discriminate while denying it to others.

Not exactly.

I am suggesting that ALL OF US can choose where to shop, dine, get service done on our car, etc. nd that ALL OF US should not have the right to deny a customer because we don't like them.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by moneill

Not exactly.

I am suggesting that ALL OF US can choose where to shop, dine, get service done on our car, etc. nd that ALL OF US should not have the right to deny a customer because we don't like them.

Yes exactly; One set of rules for you and one set for a business owner. No consistency whatsoever.

[moneill]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Yes exactly; One set of rules for you and one set for a business owner. No consistency whatsoever.

But there are different rules for consumers and business owners in lots of other areas.

I think that as long as we are consistent with all consumers

and then consistent with all business owners -- you can have two different sets of guidelines.

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by moneill

But there are different rules for consumers and business owners in lots of other areas.

I think that as long as we are consistent with all consumers

and then consistent with all business owners -- you can have two different sets of guidelines.

That's not how it's supposed work.

Property rights are absolute. As such, business owners have the absolute right to discriminate against whomever they wish.

[Tominftl]

Once you start that ball rolling you never know what’s going to happen. That seems like a good way to go out of business.

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by Tominftl

Once you start that ball rolling you never know what’s going to happen. That seems like a good way to go out of business.

Free-market capitalism for the win.

[emm74]

Originally Posted by moneill

But there are different rules for consumers and business owners in lots of other areas.

I think that as long as we are consistent with all consumers

and then consistent with all business owners -- you can have two different sets of guidelines.

Just on a practical level, it makes no sense to compare consumers and business owners. The business owner is dealing with the limited world of people who come into that business. Consumers are dealing with the entire world of businesses out there. Are consumers supposed to only go one time to any business, so that they keep trying different ones each time, regardless of location, price or even the goods or services offered?

Or said differently, do I have to go to restaurants that serve food I don't care for or that charge $100 for an entree when I have $10 to spend or drive past the 100 closest restaurants so I'm not "discriminating" against the ones further away? This isn't remotely the same as someone walking into a restaurant and being told oh, we only serve that dish to other people, you don't get to get it because of whatever characteristic they want to apply.

And yes, it means that the restaurant that refused service to Sarah Sanders would not be allowed to do that - but neither would the baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. But if the latter is allowed, then there isn't a logical basis for say the former is not.

[AuDiBelle]

Refusing to serve customers based on political affiliation or religion is not the most prudent business decision if the goal of said business is to make money. However, we live in a free society and have freedom of association so I have no problem with it whatsoever.